These are the only two pictures I have of my 646 right now. First one was cutting wood and the second was moving our giant pumpkins this fall...
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project loader in progress. and i have the bucket too.

 

I was just reading your thread, quite the deal you got there! You'll love having a ladder around. I use mine for everything

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I have a Bolens 1886 with a home made loader on it.

The guy that built it did an OK job I guess but he did do a couple of 'goofy' things.

1st, when you look at the pics, you will see that he used single action cylinders on the lift arms. That meant no down pressure. I have since corrected that and it now has double action lift cylinders.

2nd, with the way he mounted the attachment point for the single bucket tilt cylinder and the fluid reservoir, he didn't leave much room to raise the hood. It was almost impossible to gut gas in it. To correct that, I cut the hood at the seam, and added hinges so that I could get access to the fuel tank. I stole that idea from another MTF member

 

2nd, with the way he mounted the attachment point for the single bucket tilt cylinder and the fluid reservoir, he didn't leave much room to raise the hood. It was almost impossible to gut gas in it. To correct that, I cut the hood at the seam, and added hinges so that I could get access to the fuel tank. I stole that idea from another MTF member

I park mine with the bucket in the dump position. Even then the cutting edge has to be on a 4x4 to get the hood fully opened.

This is my MF1655 with a Wright Way loader. Only the arms and cylinders are still original. Here it is digging out my driveway to a depth of 3' to get rid of some red clay that was heaving it during winter. Found a few old car parts that were buried in there and got rid of them, too.

 

Thanks Nick, it was a good deal but its going to make me work for it, and nice case too.
Cool bolens OB. a bolens is on my wishlist of future tractors to own.

 

A loader would save sore backs and trips to the chiropractor.

 

OB, I think your bolens looks good, they are good looking machines. I have only ever seen one in person. They are rare here in Utah, along with everything else. Especially loaders. I drove 1000 miles one way to pick up my case 646.

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OB, I think your bolens looks good, they are good looking machines. I have only ever seen one in person. They are rare here in Utah, along with everything else. Especially loaders. I drove 1000 miles one way to pick up my case 646.

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Thank you.

It's kinda strange the way Bolens are distributed.

There are places in the country where you can't hardly turn around without tripping over one, and other places where they seem like mythical beasts

In a way it's kind of surprising that there are so many out there, as the Bolens tractors were always one of, if not the most, expensive in their class.

 

Bolens tractors were pretty popular around here during the 60's and 70's,but its not easy to buy one for a reasonable price..most owners are reluctant to sell them,knowing they cant buy anything compareable any more..sadly I have seen a few get scrapped when their elderly owners passed on and the heirs had no interest in trying to sell them,a scenario that too often happens around here with things like cars,trucks,tractors and other equipment..they cant be botherd with buyers,they call in a dumpster or a "got junk" company and they haul everything off to be scrapped..

I know of a few loaders in my area on Sears Suburbans and some other brands,but the owners are the type of folks that let them sit outside for decades and refuse to sell anything--and if they ever did decide to sell one they will want 2 grand for what little is left of it..a guy just down the street from me has a tractor with a loader thats parked behind a shed with the bucket raised all the way up,covered up so thick with thorn bushes you cant even see it or tell what kind of tractor it is (looks like a Gravely maybe?)--he said he wont sell it!.."that will still run,I'm gonna fix it up someday"..
..it has been sitting there since I graduated in 1977 at least,probably nothing worth 2 cents left to it by now..its frustrating!..:banghead3

 

Here's the trusty old 140 shortly after I got it.

 

Heres my 960 with loader im not sure if my cylinders are upside down or if it would even make a difference maybe tudor would chime in as i feel like it should lift more but it has still been very handy

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Nouveau Redneck is right. To extend cylinder the flow goes to the bore end whether its right-way up or upside down. To me, yours is right-way up and Larry's (sorry Larry), is upside down. I haven't figured out why some manufacturers put the rod down. The only difference I can see is the routing of the hoses. On Larry's the boom hoses are fixed to the boom; on yours they go down along the frame.

1500lbs; I think your doing OK.

 

1979gt18 - Reversing the cylinders shouldn't make any difference on how much it can lift. How much is it able to lift, and what are the symptoms when you try to lift more than it can handle? If it simply won't lift more than a certain amount but doesn't make any strange noises, then the pressure relief valve inside the control valve may be worn or might need to be shimmed to increase the pressure that it opens at.

 

Gotta have a few Ford LGT opensided pics on here too.

The loader has just recently been determined to be a Johnson Hyd. 10TC.

I've been working it hard all summer and it is running topless to save that classic Ford fiberglass grill from damage.

The first two are of turning and stacking the pony poop pile.

Last pic is of a new sump pump drain line she dug in for me.

 

Another in-the-works loader project. Hopefully I can show it mounted to the 140 before too long. Johnson Workhorse Model 12:

 

Redneck it probably lifts 1000-1500 lbs and its at the factory 2000 psi i checked it

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Thought I would post some more eye candy!

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Wow, I'd love to find one of those Case 644/646 TLBs. Very impressive looking machines! What's the difference between the 644 and 646?

 

Here she is after gaining some weight.

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The 644 is a kohler k321 single, the 646 is a 16.5 hp onan CCKA twin. There is also a 648, but it's newer than that brochure. They are stout machines. My 646 dry weight is 1190lbs. Overall is slightly smaller than the 400 series deeres.

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Picked this loader up this past Spring, needs LOTS of TLC, control valve and a pump along with all new hoses.

With any luck it will be a Winter project this year and be ready to go next season. Will end up on a Bolens Tube Frame

 

Just spotted this brand new JD 400 series loader. $2,600 plus tax(loader only) in Ont Can.

Note inverted rams as well. (must be something to it)

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...ers-Front-End-Loader-Fits-John-Deere-425-445-455-ONLY-1-LEFT-W0QQAdIdZ544876361

 

Yes another thread on FEL's

Note inverted rams as well. (must be something to it)

Not an expert here but if it was me designing them I would think it's to limit the amount of hose used on the FEL's...

Less hose equals cheaper, Les fluid in the lines, quicker fluid return to tank, possibly better pressure delivery and potentially less maintenance of the Hydro lines

This is under the impression that the lines are routed on the arms and not under the belly of the tractors.

2nd Cent:
Instead of just a loader thread, why don't we petition the administration for a Loader Specific SubForum ? No tractor brands, just loaders. I believe there are enough of us out there and enough information to be exchanged, that it would be justified.:dunno:

Maybe a FEL Sticky w/links to each thread and titles per thread according to specific FEL's, & or Tractors

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Thanks everybody for all the helpful information. I didnt mean to hijack the thread sorry about that.

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You didn't, this thread it's all about loaders. I wanna see them and hear about them lol

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A loader forum would be cool. The only issue I see is everyone needs to be on board. Every brand is so different and they all have their quirks. It would be good for generalities though

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Well since tudor mentioned construction equiptment heres out 1966 Case 530CK. Just putting it up for referance on cylinder position

Thats the only picture i have of the FEL cylinders. I would get better ones but its back in my uncles barn now

Mikey.

 

Not exactly loader, but loader related.

The pulley that came on my pump had only a set screw to hold it in place, no key and would come loose about once a month. This time the pulley failed and I have ordered a new one made of cast and with a keyway.

The pump has otherwise been great on my LGT Ford/Johnson 10TC. I have found it to be very responsive at 2/3 throttle and it has given me no grief.

I have posted some pics in case someone is considering a new one and needs a recommendation.

As I have drained the oil and will change it, now is a good time to ask, :dunno:

"What is a suitable viscosity/weight hydraulic oil to use for the temps experienced in our Canadian winters ? "

Perhaps someone can also interpret the ratings on the pump. I am assuming the 6.1 is the gallons per minute, but beyond that I am lost.
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Perhaps someone can also interpret the ratings on the pump. I am assuming the 6.1 is the gallons per minute, but beyond that I am lost.
:thanku: Larry

Larry, it so happens I've been studying this a bit because I'm assuming I will need a new pump to replace the Cessna on my Johnson 12.

"GP-F10-6.1-P-C"

GP= Gear Pump

F10= Series (I don't know what "F10" signifies, but for instance "F20" signifies "High Pressure Series")

6.1= Displacement, in this case 6.1 cm3

P= Driveshaft, 5/8" diameter, straight

C= Clockwise rotation

That pump should deliver approximately 5 gpm at 2000 rpm.