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Only thing I was thinking was that you will have to market your "advantages" over the JD version to justify any additional expense. If you can produce this for the same or less than what JD Offers then I would expect it would be well received. I agree that there is little to no rotation in the JD model and having it would certainly help in holding product in the bucket. Looking forward to more information on the Plucket!
 
Nice looking unit. Seeing it in motion explains it a bit better. If you can price it right it should sell.
 
I like your idea. Have you sat down and figured out how much you have in it yet? Would it be priced inline with the JD version? Would it work on the older style of blades too? Like the 318 54in blade? Personally I hope you can make and sell a few. I know it would defently help some of us that can not justify buying a FEL.............KJD
 
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Nice looking unit. Seeing it in motion explains it a bit better. If you can price it right it should sell.
I think that I can. I have about 20 years experience in automotive production and have a good grasp on lean manufacturing etc. I am also a tool and die maker so if I build up some assembly jigs and cutting fixtures, I should be able to keep the labour to a minimum. The price of steel is the kicker these days. It is built with 3/16" plate to ensure it can take the full frontal impact and that adds cost for sure. Being a prototype, I know that there are ways to make it simpler and cost effective.
 
I think that I can. I have about 20 years experience in automotive production and have a good grasp on lean manufacturing etc. I am also a tool and die maker so if I build up some assembly jigs and cutting fixtures, I should be able to keep the labour to a minimum. The price of steel is the kicker these days. It is built with 3/16" plate to ensure it can take the full frontal impact and that adds cost for sure. Being a prototype, I know that there are ways to make it simpler and cost effective.
:thThumbsU I wish you nothing but the best in your endeavor.
 
I like yours better but have you seen this one? It is very similar.

http://www.superior-tech.com/order2.html

If I weren't going to buy a 1026r or 2320 with FEL next month I would very likely want to buy one. I think $750 is about as much as I would pay. Gotta keep it under a grand with freight.
I noticed this on the specifications page. . .is this the same thing then?

"If you have an X Series Ulitimate Tractor, please visit your local John Deere Dealer and ask for the John Deere Tractor Shovel."

I like the angles of the Pluckett. It doesn't look like the JD version will cary very much at all once you get it in the bucket, while the Pluckett is deeper with higher sides. I found a few video clips of the JD shovel in action, and it looks like the range of motion is limited (its not just the operators.)
 
A couple of quick calculations says the bucket holds 7.8 cu. Ft.
I think 3 to 5 cu ft is more realistic.

My blade is an hour away so I cannot measure it, I will over-estimate the dimensions as 18in high by 18in depth. I think it is actually closer to 14in.

The side of the bucket is a triangle of 1.5ft x 1.5ft (18in x 18in). The formula for area of a triangle is 1/2 width x height. .5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 1.125sq ft.

Multiply that by the width of the blade which is 4.5ft (54 in) and you get...
1.125 x 4.5 = 5.0625 cu ft.

If the height and depth are 16in then the capacity is 4.0cu ft.

If the height and depth are 14in then the capacity is 3.0cu ft.

If the height and depth were 22in then the capacity would be 7.8cu ft.
 
Looks Nice, for someone that dosn't need all the lift it should work O. K. Keep in mind a Johnny Bucket goes for close to $1800, I try and keep my prices reasonable as well, $1450 for a loader that lifts 40 inches high and an extra $175 for a tooth bar and forks a 54 blade isn't cheap as well, so price it accordingly as well. I use 1/8 steel in the buckets I build and have them on models from 318's to 1026 rs. so I think 3/16 is a little overkill. some flat stock or an angle or two reinforcing will be able to make it handle everything you ask it to. I started to build Buford Buckets about 3 years ago, and I have went thru many changes from the original design, your background will allow you to make all the necessay changes to come up with a great niche market.
 
I made a similar "Plowbucket" scoop attachment after seeing another posters version here on MTF several years ago..I made mine with a foot operated dump lever so both hands are free to steer and operate the other controls,plus save your arm from aches and pains..I used a 1500 lb 12V winch to raise and lower it..

Someday soon I hope to be able to post some pictures up of my stuff...there was a thread Merlin777 posted that showed my plow bucket on my Yard - Man tractor ,I think the title of the post was "Tractor-Holic's Collection"..
 
Patent it now, or everybody will be selling it!

Well designed, well engineered and very functional. JD's shovel isn't in the same league. This is in the crossover territory between blade and Buford Bucket and should be well received by the GT community.

I agree with hoosierpete, 3/16" is overkill and 1/8" will suffice with that bend in the bottom adding the necessary strength to support a payload. A cutting edge at the front will add strength there for lifting without bending. Something in the range of 3/8"x3" cold rolled flat stock should suffice, or 1/4"x2.5" hardened steel for a bit more cost.

The 54" bucket that I made for my GT is 22" deep and 22" tall (9 cu-ft capacity) with a 1/2"x4" cutting edge and it has about 1/4" of bow in the cutting edge after over 2000 hours of hard service. It is otherwise made with 1/8" plate and regularly made lifts in excess of 600 lb of granular material. Yours will not face loads in that range and 1/8" is more than adequate.

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Patent it now, or everybody will be selling it!

Well designed, well engineered and very functional. JD's shovel isn't in the same league. This is in the crossover territory between blade and Buford Bucket and should be well received by the GT community.

I agree with hoosierpete, 3/16" is overkill and 1/8" will suffice with that bend in the bottom adding the necessary strength to support a payload. A cutting edge at the front will add strength there for lifting without bending. Something in the range of 3/8"x3" cold rolled flat stock should suffice, or 1/4"x2.5" hardened steel for a bit more cost.

The 54" bucket that I made for my GT is 22" deep and 22" tall (9 cu-ft capacity) with a 1/2"x4" cutting edge and it has about 1/4" of bow in the cutting edge after over 2000 hours of hard service. It is otherwise made with 1/8" plate and regularly made lifts in excess of 600 lb of granular material. Yours will not face loads in that range and 1/8" is more than adequate.

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I agree with TUDOR and Hoosier Pete.
 
I like it!. I really want a FEL but the expense and the real need for one so far has kept me from getting one. Ingenious design and features. If the price is right, [<$1K], I would seriously consider purchasing one for my 318.
 
Hey this is nicely done! Thanks for showing us what you built. Nice product.:thThumbsU


I like it!. I really want a FEL but the expense and the real need for one so far has kept me from getting one. Ingenious design and features. If the price is right, [<$1K], I would seriously consider purchasing one for my 318.
Just to put it in perpective, you can pick up used FELs for your 318 for less than $1K. You just have to keep an eye out and be willing to put a little elbow grease into refurbing it.:fing32:
 
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I think 3 to 5 cu ft is more realistic.

My blade is an hour away so I cannot measure it, I will over-estimate the dimensions as 18in high by 18in depth. I think it is actually closer to 14in.

The side of the bucket is a triangle of 1.5ft x 1.5ft (18in x 18in). The formula for area of a triangle is 1/2 width x height. .5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 1.125sq ft.

Multiply that by the width of the blade which is 4.5ft (54 in) and you get...
1.125 x 4.5 = 5.0625 cu ft.

If the height and depth are 16in then the capacity is 4.0cu ft.

If the height and depth are 14in then the capacity is 3.0cu ft.

If the height and depth were 22in then the capacity would be 7.8cu ft.
Thanks but I drew the whole thing in AutoCAD and the number I gave is accurate.
 
Looks Nice, for someone that dosn't need all the lift it should work O. K. Keep in mind a Johnny Bucket goes for close to $1800, I try and keep my prices reasonable as well, $1450 for a loader that lifts 40 inches high and an extra $175 for a tooth bar and forks a 54 blade isn't cheap as well, so price it accordingly as well. I use 1/8 steel in the buckets I build and have them on models from 318's to 1026 rs. so I think 3/16 is a little overkill. some flat stock or an angle or two reinforcing will be able to make it handle everything you ask it to. I started to build Buford Buckets about 3 years ago, and I have went thru many changes from the original design, your background will allow you to make all the necessay changes to come up with a great niche market.
I never miss an opportunity to show off your product Pete and what a pleasure it is to do business with you. It's been very useful and I'm a happy owner!
 
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