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Figured I would start a thread with all the small/medium/large projects around the new place.

The first one was rather uneventful and only required two trips to Lowes. Had to replace the upstairs toilet. The first trip was get everything required and the second trip was to get the correct supply hose. Grabbed a faucet supply hose, not a toilet supply hose. Uneventful is the way I like it.

The second project grew exponentially for about 2 hours this afternoon.......

Seeing how I own all these John Deere GT's I might as well put them to work. Only one problem.... the gate to the back yard is only 38 inches wide. Uh OH!!! ehhh putting in a chain link gate should not be a hard task... right. Nope. Get my measurements and supply list and head to Lowes. Grab my new 12 foot gate and other hardware and back home.

First task, rip up the existing deck where it is even with the house. You can see where the new gate will be in this picture. The deck was put together with screw so out comes the drill and away we go.....



Well the screws have been painted over so many times there is not way to back about 50% of them up.... so back to the old crow bar and brute force. About half way done. This view rears its ugly head. Must be an old porch.



Finish taking the deck boards off..... this clearly does not look like an old porch.






hmmmmm what to do???? Off to Lowes I go armed with the checking account. I will tell you what, shopping with the checking account is a lot more fun that shopping with tractor money. I showed some restraint I did not opt for the $584 Bosch Hammer instead I opted for the Dewalt 1/2 inch hammer drill..... and a 12 inch 3/8 bit and a 10 lb sledge. Figured 4.5 amp B&D corded drill and the 18 volt Dewalt XRP the 4 lb would not cut the mustard in this case.



Armed with these tools I should be able to reduce this paltry 3.5x3 foot concrete chunk to pebbles.... RIGHT????? Nope.

An hour later....

NOTE: Wear safety goggles when doing demo like this. I should have take pictures of my sun glasses (I have prescription glasses and the lens are rated for such activity). A chunk hit the lens and left a mark, it would have gone straight in my eye otherwise.


Clearly this is not going well. Lets update those dimensions a little sure the top is 3.5x3 feet BUT it is AT LEAST 12 inches deep.... I tried digging down beside it and it appears to be a V shape so there is no telling how deep it is. So now what.... No wonder there was a deck there..

My ideas so far because my hammer drill, bit and sledge are clearly not going to cut it.... :( I thought I was bringing a gun to a gun fight but now I feel like I brought a plastic knife to a gun fight. I have torn up a lot of concrete before but all with a similar set up..... but this boulder is a little more substantial and extremely hard to boot.

1) Rent a jack hammer
2) Rent some type of large machine
3) Hire some one
4) Give it the old college try with the blade on the 318 and dig around it and see it I can move it........ probably not. I am figuring at minimum this thing weighs 1500 lbs

5) Some type of explosive...... might not get along with the neighbors or the cops if I did that... so scratch that idea.

So what was a simple little project of deck removal and new gate placement has turn into a rather large project that will not be cheap (me thinks).
 
Go with the rented jack hammer or you can drill lots of holes in the boulder along one area and use a mini sledge and a good masonry chisel to slowly break chunks off/ split it


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I would opt for the 4 hr rental on a jack hammer. If nothing else you can get it down below grade.
I used my sub soil ripper to take out a boulder a few weeks ago for the wife then chained it up and hauled it out back. The clean part was all that was exposed when I pulled it out.
 

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Almost good to see someone else has my kind of luck.:fing32:
As for the ammo--I'm thinking they have an elect.type jack hammer now.Not the full blown kind you see workin on the side of road.That would be my pick.Whatever you use remember,,small pieces;unless you also want some back tro.down the road.Good luck!:thThumbsU
 
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Electric jack hammer prices out at 80 bucks for a day.

I can rent a mini excavator with a hydraulic hammer for 320 bucks

How much actual work am I willing to do to keep $$ in my wallet. :sidelaugh

Talked to a couple of folks today who seem to remember a radio tower close to here in the 60's and 70's before the neighborhood was developed. So that means if this thing held guide wires it is monstrous!


Move the gate post over the same distance from the house as the edge of the deck. Quick 45 minute project.
I thought about that but I am still a foot short of the 12 foot gate. Plus if you look at the first picture my goal is to have 12 feet from the shed to the edge of the deck.

Not o mention the 200+ bucks worth of lumber I would need to buy o cover it back up :ROF
 
Yup! Back to breaking it down below grade.
 
Definitely looks like that cement was used to hold something in place. If there was a radio tower, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more cement patches around.
Your best bet is probably a jack hammer. Seems too close to the house to use explosives and probably too deep and big to easily dig out.
 
no bigger than it is either the tower was short(less than 200 feet) or that is the base pedastal for any size up to maybe 500'. if it is an anchor, it will have 1-2 yards of concrete. if it is the ped it will have anywhere from 1-20 yards of concrete! i've seen 3' square holes 80' deep before for the main tower ped.
 
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David I think you might be on to something with it being the pedestal. It has three metal, what I will call stakes, coming out of it. Maybe an old TV tower. I found some old arias that might help. I will dig those up and post them here in a little bit. Seems like my negh ord might have some concrete in their yards......
 
yep, looks more like a ped base than an anchor. it will be a minimum 3' deep even if it was just a small tower. most tv antenna towers had 5-8' deep concrete bases, and like i said bigger towers went deeper where soil allows. i would jackhammer it dee enough to get below grade and leave it.
 
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Made some more progress on the deck demo this evening.




Tomorrow afternoon I will take up the next two boards and cut all the stringers off level. We wanted to see how it would look before I started reassembling it. I need to replace a couple of the deck boards while I am at it. I should be able to finish this by Friday and then work on the concrete this weekend.


Here is a better view of the piling. You can see the three metal supports in this picture.
I drilled a couple of more holes and dug around it a little bit trying to gauge the size and I dont think it is more than a couple of feet. I am think it might be an old antenna just for the house.


In all an unexpectedly productive afternoon. I think an electric jack hammer will allow me to get it below grade and I can cover it up.

I am kind of excited, the soil is really compacted under the deck so when I pick the tiller up for the 212 on Sunday I know its first task. :bananapow
 
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Finished the gate so I could mow the yard.



I do need to grade the yard by the gate so I can level the gates a little bit. Being this off set is a little against my OCD... All things in time. The concrete has to go first, but that project is going on the back burner for a couple of days so I can organize the garage and get my tools in order.

The only thing left to do is to find my hack saw so I can cut the top rail..... that might be a while.

To give an idea of the current state of the garage.... this is the Golden Child. :hide:

But you can see the free cart I got from down the street, I never did post. Its a jackson model 45... seems in good shape.

 
:thThumbsU Everyday a little progress and you will get there!
 
:thThumbsU Everyday a little progress and you will get there!
Yep, that's what I've noticed! I always have to work by meself, and make sfor some slow going, but, I just keep plugging away, and eventually, I see some progress. But, I'm going to die way before I finish around here on me place. Oh well, that's okay too.

Sorry, suffering from a bit of depression lately.
 
Keep on chugging mrbeef :fing32: Don't worry the wife will come up with 20 more projects once you finish the first 5 or maybe thats just me :hide:
 
mr beef have you tried drilling at an angle?, so about 3"-4" from the edge towards the outside then hitting it might give you the scarring you need to get it broke into chucks so just start from the outside and work your way in and might save you a few dollars also recommend a good digging bar for projects around the house check yards sales and what not i picked mine up for $20 at one and it's been worth every penny

we run into those kind of things all the time, i work for company that does contract work for BG&E and we have been doing pole replacement in back yards of baltimore for the past 6 months and you would be amazed how many old abandoned sidewalks there are a foot under the dirt not to mention just seems like almost random concrete pads everywhere
 
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mr beef have you tried drilling at an angle?, so about 3"-4" from the edge towards the outside then hitting it might give you the scarring you need to get it broke into chucks so just start from the outside and work your way in and might save you a few dollars also recommend a good digging bar for projects around the house check yards sales and what not i picked mine up for $20 at one and it's been worth every penny

we run into those kind of things all the time, i work for company that does contract work for BG&E and we have been doing pole replacement in back yards of baltimore for the past 6 months and you would be amazed how many old abandoned sidewalks there are a foot under the dirt not to mention just seems like almost random concrete pads everywhere
I did try drilling at an angle I got slightly better results. Mrs. Beef and I were staring at it last night and we are pondering leaving it there as a place for a fire pit.......... I would need to square up the sides but its an idea. I got to use the new ages yesterday and drive my truck through them. My truck drives over it fine and I think we might make that idea work :hide: for the time being. And worry more about it later.we will have to see. Today is the garage!
 
Yep, that's what I've noticed! I always have to work by meself, and make sfor some slow going, but, I just keep plugging away, and eventually, I see some progress. But, I'm going to die way before I finish around here on me place. Oh well, that's okay too.

Sorry, suffering from a bit of depression lately.
After 30 yrs in the same place, I can tell you, a house is not something you ever finish, you just keep working till the next shift shows up.:duh:

It's the journey that's forever, not the destination.:fing02:
 
"I do need to grade the yard by the gate so I can level the gates a little bit. Being this off set is a little against my OCD... "

sounds like an excuse for a FEL Mr Beef:bananapow
 
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