Hi- I’m looking at a listing for a ‘03 x585, 425 hrs, 54” deck, snowblower. It checks a lot of boxes as an upgrade from my GT275, but just wondering anyone’s thoughts and experiences in terms of expected reliability for a machine that old. Seems like very low hours for that year, though. Practicality for mows and snow are big for me, reliability is important, and general awesomeness is desirable. Thanks.
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Tractor very reliable, I think the biggest issues is gauge cluster goes out and pick up tube in fuel tank comes off.
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Not that many hours on an 8 model year old machine. Burned says reliable, I'd agree.
If it looks to be well cared for, might be a great machine to go forward with.
You'd have to get a good look at it to verify that it isn't totally abused or clapped out.
Find out what the machine was used for. Acres, hilly, snow removal, garden tilling, etc... Sometimes suburban dwellers buy machines that barely get warmed up before the yard is done. If this is one of those "over bought" machines barely tested, would be a great machine for a long time to come.
Good luck with whatever you do.
If it looks to be well cared for, might be a great machine to go forward with.
You'd have to get a good look at it to verify that it isn't totally abused or clapped out.
Find out what the machine was used for. Acres, hilly, snow removal, garden tilling, etc... Sometimes suburban dwellers buy machines that barely get warmed up before the yard is done. If this is one of those "over bought" machines barely tested, would be a great machine for a long time to come.
Good luck with whatever you do.
I recently picked up an x595 and the meter reads 310 but the condition of everything is more like 1310 so I'm not sure if that was right but I don't have any hard evidence. Either way it's gonna get totally gone over by me and then I'll know I can trust it.
That's the only bad thing about low hour machines. You don't check things that normally go bad at high hours or a certain amount of time.
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That's the only bad thing about low hour machines. You don't check things that normally go bad at high hours or a certain amount of time.
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They are good solid machines. In my experience they are reasonably easy to work on, you just need a good metric tool set if you need to turn some wrenches. Fuel pump, dash cluster, and a few hydro line issues (on early units), have been the big things I have observed over the years that folks have struggled with. I am finishing a X585 project and about ready to send it down the road. I’ve enjoyed playing with it.
You have received a lot of good advice so far. Here are some additional things to consider.
Why is the current owner selling it so so soon. Was it redundant before?
Did they buy something else that made it redundant, why?
My newish rule on buying used is look it over very carefully. Figure out what it needs to make it good enough for who it's for. Add 20 to 30% of the purchase cost for unforseen issues and expect to spend at least a couple of months of weekends dealing with these issues. If it still feels like a good deal, then it probably is.
I did this on my X749 and bought it anyway. Here is what I didn't notice or broke soon after:
1. Tilt steering wheel is very loose in tilt direction, almost a full notch worth.
2. Makes a grinding scraping sound from front axle/wheels.
3. Transaxle frame mounts are cracked
4. Appeared radiator was leaking, but just turned out it was the hose, so replaced the hoses and fan belt, which was almost broken.
5. There was a loud clunk in the steering. Traced this to the middle control arm, which is the cheapest one. Others probably could use replacement, but are still working.
I did notice the following before buying:
1. The tires are old, but still working.
2. The left rear taillight is held on by electrical tape.
3. There was lots of condensation in the dash.
4. It has 1300+ hours, so expected it would need some time and dollars to get to good enough.
Every used piece of equipment I have purchased in the last couple of years has needed more than I expected going in. I am still glad I bought all of them, but I made sure the price I paid was consistent with the condition being much worse than I expected. I also knew that it would take me some time to figure out the majority of the issues. I am still working through that on the X749 months later. I have spent way more time working on it than actually using it and I am not done with getting it to good enough.
The X585 is a very nice machine. They are generally reliable. Parts are generally available, but they are very expensive, but that is the case for most things Deere. I didn't want to spend the $ for a new X739, since I wasn't sure I would like it well enough for the $. The X749 was a test. I figured if I didn't like it, I could sell it for not too much of a loss. It also meant I could keep my X534 for mowing. I am glad that I made that decision. I think the X749 is too big and too top heavy (not that it is that top heavy) for certain areas of my property that are very challenging. So, if your primary reason for getting the X585 is mowing, make VERY sure it really will be a better mower than what you have. In some respects, my X300 is the best mower of the three I have. The X534 has a lot things that make it easier and more comfortable, but it doesn't really mow better.
Why is the current owner selling it so so soon. Was it redundant before?
Did they buy something else that made it redundant, why?
My newish rule on buying used is look it over very carefully. Figure out what it needs to make it good enough for who it's for. Add 20 to 30% of the purchase cost for unforseen issues and expect to spend at least a couple of months of weekends dealing with these issues. If it still feels like a good deal, then it probably is.
I did this on my X749 and bought it anyway. Here is what I didn't notice or broke soon after:
1. Tilt steering wheel is very loose in tilt direction, almost a full notch worth.
2. Makes a grinding scraping sound from front axle/wheels.
3. Transaxle frame mounts are cracked
4. Appeared radiator was leaking, but just turned out it was the hose, so replaced the hoses and fan belt, which was almost broken.
5. There was a loud clunk in the steering. Traced this to the middle control arm, which is the cheapest one. Others probably could use replacement, but are still working.
I did notice the following before buying:
1. The tires are old, but still working.
2. The left rear taillight is held on by electrical tape.
3. There was lots of condensation in the dash.
4. It has 1300+ hours, so expected it would need some time and dollars to get to good enough.
Every used piece of equipment I have purchased in the last couple of years has needed more than I expected going in. I am still glad I bought all of them, but I made sure the price I paid was consistent with the condition being much worse than I expected. I also knew that it would take me some time to figure out the majority of the issues. I am still working through that on the X749 months later. I have spent way more time working on it than actually using it and I am not done with getting it to good enough.
The X585 is a very nice machine. They are generally reliable. Parts are generally available, but they are very expensive, but that is the case for most things Deere. I didn't want to spend the $ for a new X739, since I wasn't sure I would like it well enough for the $. The X749 was a test. I figured if I didn't like it, I could sell it for not too much of a loss. It also meant I could keep my X534 for mowing. I am glad that I made that decision. I think the X749 is too big and too top heavy (not that it is that top heavy) for certain areas of my property that are very challenging. So, if your primary reason for getting the X585 is mowing, make VERY sure it really will be a better mower than what you have. In some respects, my X300 is the best mower of the three I have. The X534 has a lot things that make it easier and more comfortable, but it doesn't really mow better.
Not specific to the x585 but these transaxles are prone to oil leaks at any shaft junction. You should just plan to pull it and replace all external seals. No internal disassembly needed.
Other issues previously mentioned fuel pump and/or output tube, fuel pressure regulator. Probably a good idea to replace the radiator hoses and thermostat and the cooling fan belt and support bearings. The belt can be done without pulling the radiator but its a bit tight in there.
Seat switch can also be problematic when older, just replace.
Other issues previously mentioned fuel pump and/or output tube, fuel pressure regulator. Probably a good idea to replace the radiator hoses and thermostat and the cooling fan belt and support bearings. The belt can be done without pulling the radiator but its a bit tight in there.
Seat switch can also be problematic when older, just replace.
The thing with these machines is there is very little room, so it can be hard to get to things. Removing the radiator was fun. Putting it back even more. Luckily, I didn't have to replace it. It is probably over $600 now and no aftermarket solutions. It might be possible to get one custom made, but probably not any cheaper.
Having said that, they are fun machines and feel much different from the X300 and (new) X500 series machines.
Having said that, they are fun machines and feel much different from the X300 and (new) X500 series machines.
Take a look at the dash and other components to make sure it matches the condition of the rest of the machine. Also drive the machine around and make sure the way it drives matches the hours on the machine.
For reference my x585 just turned over to 1600 hours on the clock. I have no idea if the hours are accurate, i'm the third owner of the machine and i think it drives better than it should for that many hours.
Hours are a single data point when evaluating a machine - need to look at the other things mentioned in the above posts.
For reference my x585 just turned over to 1600 hours on the clock. I have no idea if the hours are accurate, i'm the third owner of the machine and i think it drives better than it should for that many hours.
Hours are a single data point when evaluating a machine - need to look at the other things mentioned in the above posts.
I just went over 900 hours on my X585. Started with 560 hours five years ago so averaging around 70 hours a year doing lawn work, hauling wood, snow blowing and some loader work. I had the fuel pump hose issue the first year and two years ago the fuel gauge sensor went so had to replace the fuel pump. I should probably replace the tires as the HDAP treads are getting tires and I'm starting to see cuts and some signs of cracking. It generally runs great but sometimes wants to burn off some oil as it warms up - it is pretty random. It burns a bit of oil off between changes to I occasionally need to add a little. Not sure if that is normal or if I'm headed for ring job. Otherwise, I love the machine.
They had issues with the instrument cluster. Not saying the one your looking at has had it replaced but mine has over 1,200 but only reads about 450 now. Absolutely fantastic very capable machines.
Hi JaxC45
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...a quick look at TractorData does not include a backhoe as an atttachment
There may be aftermarket ones available, but you do have to be careful if you go that route...I know that on my M-F I could have bought the model new with a backhoe, but mounting an aftermarket poses the likelyhood of twisting the chassis.....new from the manufacturer would have had additional steel in the under carriage to bear the torque
There may be aftermarket ones available, but you do have to be careful if you go that route...I know that on my M-F I could have bought the model new with a backhoe, but mounting an aftermarket poses the likelyhood of twisting the chassis.....new from the manufacturer would have had additional steel in the under carriage to bear the torque
Deere marketed the X400 and X500 series as Heavy-Duty Lawn and Garden Tractors.
From one of Deere's brochures, the weight of the X585 is approx. 945 pounds vs the X595 at 1095 pounds. So, there is 150 pound difference. I believe that they both use the same major components except for the engine and related parts. Same frame, transmission, drive train, steering, etc.
From one of Deere's brochures, the weight of the X585 is approx. 945 pounds vs the X595 at 1095 pounds. So, there is 150 pound difference. I believe that they both use the same major components except for the engine and related parts. Same frame, transmission, drive train, steering, etc.
585 and 595 are both described as Garden Tractors in Tractordata ...I have a M-F 1723E that is described as a SCUT ...it weighs over 1,400 pounds....same ballpark as a KIOTI . Kubota or JD SCUT
The 595 has a 1HP smaller engine than the 585....and I am not saying you are wrong, because I just do not know for sure either....but where is that other 125+ pounds if the components are the same?
It's a heavy-duty garden tractor. Until just a couple years ago, Simplicity had a competing model line that they since dropped and earlier still, Cub Cadet did, too. There are a couple other manufacturers out there that used to make heavy duty garden tractors.
Ditto here, but I added a Ruegg 3pt hitch and now I carry 8 weights on a Heavy Hitch weight bar/2-inch receiver. That weight bar is handy for other uses.
Correct. It is slightly larger than X7 series machines but uses the same tire size. It is heavier, more hydraulic options, comes with 3pt and rear PTO standard. Basically, just what you expect from a SCUT. It does have a higher center of gravity than the X7.
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