hey i am new to the site and i want to post some pics on my new tractor how do i post the pics. every time i upload the picture it says it exceeds the size limit. im lost

 

Follow this link. Ken will tell you just how to do it.
http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=77172

 

Sorry the Upload thing tells me I can`t repost pics.So some of them you`ll have to go to the above Link to see.

Currently I have the tractor sitting in front of my house.I had to Dig it out of the Ground,because it sat so long.I tugged the engine over Yesterday and I had no Spark,but I`ll fix that tommorrow.I found another Carb, so I`ve installed that, but it`s missing the Fuel inlet, where the Fuel line hooks up.I`ll rig something up Tommorow, for temporary use. I`m still looking for the original Carb,I know it`s around here somewhere.I`m hoping to have a short Video of Ol`Blue, Running Tommorow.Since the Tractor will need to be completely Re-Wired, I`ll probably be Tugging it over with a Rope.I guess after a few times starting it like that,it will give me good incentive to Get the Wiring, and Electric start working again..LOL

 

your i d tag should be either near the bottom of the plastic dash or on the console under the seat but they are foil tags and a lot of them arent there or are unreadable.

 

Thanks Rusty..I guess I`m Back to Guessing,at what I`ve actually got then..LOL. Does anyone Know for Certain,Are all "990 Series" Hydrostatic Drives? And what other possible Model could this Machine be, aside from a "960 Series".? It has a 4 speed Manual Transmission. It`s raining here this Morning again,so I`m thinking of going out and Finding a New Generator/Starter drive Belt. Anyone Know what the Belt Specs are for that. Briggs has 2 part numbers, 68898 (Low Position Mount) = 35.75" long, and ,68878 (Hi Position Mount) = 36.75" long.. I didn`t find any info on top width etc. Gates Belts X-Ref. to 68898 = 7360 , & , 68878 = 7370 , but their Dimensions don`t seem to match exactly to the Briggs Description. I don`t have the Original belt anymore, so I can`t just match it.Can`t remember what I did with it.Think I was beginning to have electrical problems when it last ran,and the Original Belt, is probably sitting with the Original Carburator somewhere. I must be getting Ol`Timers Disease,Can`t remember much..Think Next year, I`ll be able to hide my own Easter eggs..LOL :sidelaugh

 

That one is a little differant, maybe Glenn would know

 

The belt is 3/8" wide

 

.Thank you Glen. 3/8" X "which length" will I need for this Model, do you Think ?

..Jeeper,I sent Old Skool a PM Last night, with a link to Google Picasa.I gave him a couple hints on Shrinking his pics. Down to size.He got back to me and said it was working for him..Told him ,We want his Pics..LOL Haven`t seen any from him yet though..

..Have a Few pics and short Video as Promised Just have to do some editting and upload it to YouTube..Am I allowed to post a link in this thread, to the Video? I don`t want to get on the Wrong side of the Law, around Here...

..Hope everyone is having a good evening,our weather Cleared up a few hours ago, so I was able to Fiddle with, Ol`Blue,for a little while after supper..Back a little later..Dave

 

Well 1`st thing I did to get the Briggs running again, was straighten out the No Fuel inlet problem.

 

Then,I needed to get Spark back.. I bought a Mega-Fire II Ignition Module, just because I wanted to try that Gadget out.. I had no Spark initially,my points had a Crust on them,and I`m pretty sure that`s why I had no Spark..I installed the Electronic module in about 3 minutes.I didn`t want to cut any wires so,by removing the Points Cover, loosening off the Points wire ,and twisting the Positive pole on the Module to that wire, with the supplied in the Kit "Marret",I made my hook-up.I used one of the Points covers` long Screws and put the Ground wire to it,and made the Ground connection through the Points Frame. Ta Daaa!! Got spark immediately.I did this set-up as a temporary fix Just to get my engine to run again.Definately not a permanent fix..I`ll most likely go back to points,and do a good comparison later on.

My 1`st impression on the Mega-Fire II.. I like it. Told me my coil was good right away.Very easy to install..I`ll give it a good work out later on, and see just how good it is Compared to points.. Was definately easier than Aligning & Gapping, a Condensor/Point set-up. I`ld say nearly Idiot Proof..Nothing Bad,that I can say about that product at this point.I would have to use it for a While, before recommending it to anyone else though.

 

Anybody see a Muffler like this Before? I`ve been looking at Other members pictures, and I haven`t seen anything like it .Is this a Factory equipped muffler ?

Last pic.is a clutch Rebuild that I did, when I was about 20 years old. I chopped it up from a Sheet of 1/2" Brake shoe relining material.Pretty Ruff looking job, but I think it had to do with making it work(fit) on/from the Size of Piece/sheet I had available to make the disk from..If I remember correctly the Sheet was full of Asbestos, and had a Brass type of thread woven Through out it..Guess what,, 24 years later,,It still works ..LOL

 

It looks to be the same as a 990, which would be 3/8" x 35.75"

They both use the same grill, so the s/g should be in the same place.

That's my best guess.

 

Thanks again Glen ,I`ll see what I can find for a Low cost,aftermarket Belt around here. I`ve pulled the engine over by rope, about 10 times so far,and that`s getting pretty annoying already.

 

.After sitting out in the Field so long,I think the oil on the Rotating components in the engine has sort of "dried up". Here`s that video of the engine running (sort of),yesterday evening. If you listen closely you can hear it Clacking/Knocking. I haven`t changed it`s oil yet .The oil still looks Clean and new,actually it looks as if I just changed it yesterday, though, I think I would have remembered doing that. I really don`t want to open up this engine,but if I have to, I will..What you see in the Video is basically all the time that it has had for running ,minus the few seconds that it took to throw the rope down, and for me to turn around and grab the camera.. I sure wish Briggs had put a oil filter, and Hi volume oil pump in these old Cast Iron engines. I`m going to have to do something about Re-wetting the Internals of this Engine,with oil. I really don`t like the Idea of just Starting it again, and Waiting for the Oil slinger to "wet out" all the internal parts,while it is running.Doing that might just lead to a Permanent Knock,or worse..The engine May look Horrible,but it always had Fresh Clean oil,and was/is very healthy.It never had a noise like that before,I`m certain it developed due to sitting for so long, and not being run.

..In the Video if you look Closely you can see that my fuel Tank is not Hooked up..I think the Tank is Screwed,and I`ll need to find a New one,due to the Corrosion and Crud in it. If I can`t find a new one, I`ll re-line the interior of the Tank ,but would prefer to just get another..What I did to get it started was fill the Fuel line with gas,tossed some gas down the Throat of the Carburator, and a wee bit more fuel down the Spark plug Hole. The Carb is not properly installed to the Choke control, or the Govenor either.The throttle and Choke cable are both Seized, so that will need to be looked at and fixed, or replaced.This Carb., I have no Idea what it was originally on or from.I got it out of a Friends Junk Box.It was a Flow Jet, so I snatched it up,just so I had something to use for now.That carb has had a pretty hard life too.It has some sort of Plastic cap ,taped and wired on where the Big Welch plug is supposed to be located at the Bottom of the Carb,in line with the Choke plate. I did nothing to it, except bolt it on.That and what I described in an earlier post about a fuel inlet.If I don`t stumble across my original Factory installed carb for this engine,I`ll rebuild ,and re-Jet this one, that is Bolted to the intake manifold now.

..The next time I try to start the engine, I`m going to add a little 2 Stroke oil to the Fuel.At least that way I know the Top end is getting a bit of oil.If that doesn`t give the engine enough time to Splash oil, and re-lube the internals,and stop the clacking after 20 seconds, or so, I`ll pull the engine out of the tractor, flip it upside down,Rotate the Crank a few times, and re-install it again.If that doesn`t cure the engine Noise,then I`ll have to go in and take a look at what`s going on inside..I`m open to other ideas for getting the oil into the Rotating parts, if anyone has a suggestion,I`m listening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsuFQE07Vj8

 

It may have carbon coming loose ,after a motor sits a long time the carbon can come off the valves under the heads of them and the piston too..some old Briggs had cast iron pistons too,which always made SOME noise..often the camshaft makes a knock if its the type that has a hollow shaft with a pin going though it for its "axle" too,as they age and get a bit of slop..

I see you tried what I did,using a ford gas filter--it may or may not work for you,sometimes they wont allow enough fuel to pass through for the engine to run right,on gravity feed alone,they were made to be used with a fuel pump..and do I see another car style in-line filter in addition to that one?..if it is,I'd think that TWO filters of tha design may well cause problems,but by running it is the only way to tell for sure..

My Briggs 8 HP has a Flo-Jet too,I tried the ford filter,and ended up taking it off in favor of a screen type disc filter..it made the engine seem to starve for fuel when the tank was below half full,and it also had a 5/16" fuel hose barb,I had a hard time getting my 1/4" gas line on it!..originally they used steel or copper tubing on those carbs for the fuel line..which I prefer over rubber,but mine is staying rubber for now..

I've never seen a muffler like that one,but I'd say it looks factory..

Asfor those points eliminator modules,I like them,but they are getting harder to find locally,I guess all the shops think all the points engines are long ago scrapped or something..too bad they dont work on all engines,like my older 7 HP Briggs with a coil that has 3 legs,and more than one flywheel magnet..
Once I use one I never go back to points.on engines with them hidden under the flywheel,but those with external points I dont mind keeping them..its a pain pulling the flywheel off every year to clean points..

 

sweet sounds like its coming along quite well. Mine has sat for a long time. I am sure I wont get as lucky as you did. but congrats on the fire up

 

I've put megafires on my stihl chainsaw and another pushmower...they're great. Bought 3 of them on the web for future use since I always buy old equipment. Those filters will starve an engine, they're made for pressure gas not gravity feed. You might want to drive a punch threw that ford filter to keep the connection and put a screen filter on it. They sell them at tractor supply for 5 bucks.

 

If you're worried about the top end getting oil then squirt some light oil in the spark plug hole....that way the rings won't slide dry and score the cylinder. Turn it by hand a few times.

 

Hi Everyone.Hope you all are having a nice weekend,and getting a bit of work done on,or,some use out of your Tractors. Myself, didn`t have a chance to do anything with Ol`Blue yesterday.Well, I guess that`s not totally true, I did manage to pick up a new belt for the Generator/Starter Drive. Plus, I managed to Put it in place around the Pulleys,but, not Adjusted for tension yet. I ended up Getting a Dayco #3L360 @ 3/8" X 36" .I could not get Fractional Lengths for that Belt.I had a Choice of 35",or 36" but no 35.750" Belt..I`m pretty certain that I`ll be able to Pull the Slack out, when I adjust the Generator/Starter away from the engine..Glen your Info was Bang on.Thanks again..By purchasing the slightly longer Dayco Belt @ $8.50,I saved about $20.00 by not getting the Briggs Name Brand. 66+% savings..I`ll Take it .So what, if it doesn`t say Briggs on it,It will function just as well..

..Tractor I suppose that carbon could have fallen off,,but, I would be more inclined to think that a valve is a little Stucky..It`s a sort of a Clacking sound, similar to the noise, a loose rocker arm on a Small Block Chevy makes. It`s a Noise that is Completely new for this engine,it didn`t sound like that before..I really don`t think, it`s the Noises you are describing about the Piston, and Cam.This tractor has been in the immediate Family for 29 years now.I would have recognized this Clack, same as I recognize my Sisters Voice.They`re both part of the Family..LOL. Please,,,just DON`T tell Her, I compared her to a Tractor..:sidelaugh

..Good Eye, Guys. Yes, it`s a Ford Fuel filter.A new Spare I had on hand for my 75, 4V, 429 C.I.Crew Cab. That Fuel filer is just a Temporary thing.The larger Canister type (old Dodge Style) Filter, like the the one Tractor Holic Spotted on the OLD fuel Line, is usually what I use on that tractor. Those have always worked really well for me on that engine,and I can find them for about $3.00-4.00 locally. If you look close in that video you can see the Fuel hose (has a Red Clamp on it) ,is leaned up against the Tank ,but not connected to that tank..That tank Is pretty much Junk..The hose I did use was just used to get fuel into the Float Bowl.I know,not the proper way to do things,but,all I wanted to do is get that engine fired up,even if it`s only for a few seconds at a time..I promise I`ll do things properly, once I find a new Fuel Cell. I have a feeling you guy`s will see Quite a bit more, "Jerry Riggin" out of me, Before, I give the Final "Ta-daa, it`s Finished"..

..Joe not sure how old your Stihl Saw is, but if it had an electronic ignition from Factory,,It`s warrantied for life,and a dealer will replace it free of Charge..

..Gents`,I`m going to test your Theory on The Ford fuel Filter today,and put the results on Video..The Filter that I screwed on to the Flo-Jet Carb is brand new so I`ll use that for the Test.I`m not saying you guys`, are Wrong about it being a "pump only" Filter.I just have an Inquiring mind and want to "see" for myself...I guess I`ll be doin some "Jerry Riggin" for this test..LOL.

..Wizard I sure do like your MTD in your Avatar.Was that a JC Penny Tractor? Some people don`t like the "Theme "of those Tractors, But I kind of Wish that my Ol`Blue,was Ol`Yeller..LOL. If that`s the tractor that you think I`m ahead of you with,I would have to say,"I beleive your Mistaken"..It was Saturday Last night So maybe you had a Few, too many..:sidelaugh

..Hopefully have something at least a little interesting this afternoon to show,Oh Yeah, the test results..See ya`ll later,Dave

 

I'd put some "Marvel Mystery Oil" in both the spark plug hole and a little in the crankcase, tilt the whole tractor over on it's side and slowly rotate the motor to bathe the upper end.

 

I usually buy old stuff...my Stihl WB chainsaw was points and now it's not. I changed it over a few years ago to the megafire when it was having problems.

 

..Well the weather hasn`t been cooperating to well for me here, so the Work on the tractor has been at a slow pace. The fuel filter, flow test has been put on hold.I have something in mind for a method to do that test so that the results will be very honest,and true,but it will have to wait for now, till I get a few things/parts together first. I think the results will be very interesting to learn..

..Have any of you folks Tried the Semi-Synthetic oils, in these Briggs Engines,if so, what are your findings.Did you like it, or not? Was it worth using that type of oil ? I have some on hand here, but, thought I would get some opinions first before doing an oil change with it...

..Since this Tractor was first purchased, it had a Bolt Broken off in the Block.It`s by the Starter/Generator. I`m going to have to Fix that.The previous owner Had rigged up the Tension Adjusting Bracket to a 2`nd threaded Hole closer to the rear of the engine.That worked for a Long time but, now that I have a New belt when I put the correct tension ont STarter the Positive post ,comes in contact with the Bracket,not a Good thing.So It`s something I`ll have to Fix.

..I`ve discovered that the Clutch still doesn`t slip,but it needs work.Watch the Video to see what I mean.It`s a little Seized up..LOL.

..The Clack has Gone away now. :congrats: So I think it`s time to pull the Deck out from underneath Ol`Blue.

..Here`s a picture of the points, they basically made NO contact. No wonder the Tractor had no Spark. The other ones were a taken from the Kitchen window.It almost looks like an Airplane Crash Site..Parts everywhere..LOL

Video of yesterdays Results;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwR1Dji3rb8

 

you'll probably need to modify the hood to fit the gas tank...maybe a custom hood scoop would like good..nothing better than forced air intake to get that extra 1/32 horsepower

 

LOL @ Joe..I was thinking of Just Chrome plating the Entire engine, and Chucking that Hood all together. With a Fuel cell like that ,I will definately, want to Show it Off. :sidelaugh

Does anybody have a Straight on picture of this Decal on the Hood ? How about the Dash,, are there any NOS or Reproductions of that part? This Dash was all Cracked, and patched up when we originally Bought the Tractor..I`ll Fix what I have if I cant find a replacement .

 

If anyone is interested in replacing the labels on the dash there's several different ways to do it. One of my hobbies is restoring antique radios(sadly AM talk radio is my favorite background noise) and I've used waterslide decals often. They're the easiset way to do it. You can get blank sheets, print the lettering off an inkjet printer, cut and slide them on then clearcoat the metal dash. Looks factory and you can make any label you want.

 

..Hi Ye`all..Joe that`s exactly how I`m going to Re-"Label" the Engine, and all the Smaller Decals on the The Tractor. I have both types of Waterslide Papers .The type for InkJet,and also for Laser Jet printers,.I also have the The Sealers etc. to do the Job.It really looks like the the engine decals and the Small labels on the Tractor were Water slides decals to begin with originally.I build True to Scale, Remote control Aircraft,Mainly F4U Corsairs.There`s Scale sized markings on those planes that you just can`t Buy. Personally,so I make them myself. I think doing that sort of thing is a lot (Making your own Decals) of fun.It`s just the Hood Decals are a vinyl type of Decal.So I need a Good Picture so I can make a Graphic File to Take to whichever decal shop.. There`s also the "Dry Rub" Decals a person can do, But that Hobby Costs some Money.
..Hi wizard.You must be Talking about one of those really long Fuel Tanks? I don`t know if it fits ..Most likely it would .The Chassis Seem to be Nearly Identicle year to year..But I don`t really know for certain... I ended up Cleaning The BaJeebers out of this Tank of Mine,and rinsing it out with lots of Gas..The rust Stain is not releasing to the Fuel anymore,and the Particles seemed to be Cleaned out now.It still Looks rusty inside,But Im just going to use it as is for Now..
..The Guys Who Mentioned about the Ford Gas fiter Being Restrictive... You`re Right !! It`s not even necessary to Test the filters to Know this.. I rebuilt the Carb,and Had that Ford Fuel filter off.I just Blew threw it by mouth and Did the same to a New Briggs filter. It`s without a Doubt ,,Restrictive... I ended up Punching a Hole in the Ford Carb Filter and Now, it is just a Fuel Inlet Barb that looks Like a Filter..LOL When I initialy Installed that Filter,I didn`t even think about it Slowing Fuel Flow down,,It was New, So I screwed it on.
..Things are progressing on, OL`Blue, quite Nicely.I have a bunch of Pics from the Last couple days,of what I`ve been doing on It.Ran into and Fixed a Few Problems,Then finding More Trouble..LOL .Eventually The problems will just become Maintenance Items,and not Absolutely have to fix problems..LOL.The pictures need editing first, before I can upload them Here.Also Have a video ..The Best one to Date .I don`t know if many folks are that intrested in seeing this stuff.. I`ll Post everything up if there`s some interest,but otherwise it`s a lot of Fooling around to upload this stuff if it`s not too interesting ,to anybody..So let me Know .For right now, I`m going to go outside, and do some more work on the Tractor..We have really nice weather here today, so I want to make the Most of it,while the sun is out..Photo editing etc can be done when the sun is Down or Raining..

..Hope everyone is having a good day.Bye for Now.Dave

 

If a 990 gas tank will fit, I know where there is a brand new looking one. Its in greenville, IL.