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Is there a good small battery charger. I have a big Craftsman charger 20 + years old that works great.

But I like to have a small charger I can carry to where I'm working(no garage).
I bought a small charger from Wallmart, well known brand, That has 6v/12v
and 3 charging speeds. It has a bad battery dection device.

JUNK

If the battery is real low it will trip the dector and won't charge. Each time I've tested the battery and they were good.

So do I have to hit the yard sales, and buy an older one without this feature. Or is there a good one out there.

Or is mine just defective. I will post the brand and model tommorrow.

Walter
 
Is there a good small battery charger. I have a big Craftsman charger 20 + years old that works great.

But I like to have a small charger I can carry to where I'm working(no garage).
I bought a small charger from Wallmart, well known brand, That has 6v/12v
and 3 charging speeds. It has a bad battery dection device.

JUNK

If the battery is real low it will trip the dector and won't charge. Each time I've tested the battery and they were good.

So do I have to hit the yard sales, and buy an older one without this feature. Or is there a good one out there.

Or is mine just defective. I will post the brand and model tommorrow.

Walter
How did you test the battery?
 
Walter g, I am pretty happy with my Battery tender. It's not a high powered charger, but I leave it on my HD all winter long, and it maintains the battery very well. It is compatible with lead-acid, gel-cell, and AGM batteries (starting and deep cycle). I slap in on my boat and RV batteries about once per month just to keep them in top shape.

Beyond that, I have a 10 amp Craftsman with a 50 amp boost mode, which is compatible with both lead-acid and gel cell batteries (starting and deep cycle). I do not see in the product guide that it is AGM compatible, so I have not tried it on one.

It's really pretty important you match the charger to the battery. I use a gel cell in my JD318 because the alternator in it will not effectively charge an AGM (this was discovered years ago when GM put AGMs in Vettes, and the stock alternator would not charge them).
 
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Paul I had a couple tested locally, each one has been good just needed to be charged.

D-Dogg I have my big Craftsman but it's in the 12x20 shed I'm trying to turn into a shop. Not very accessable right now.

I had a small charger that worked great but it dissapeared during the move.My last small one was a Craftsman I haven't checked the new ones for features yet.

Walter
 
Walter g,
The one I have is no longer listed. If you are not scared of spending a couple of bucks, I would also recommend you look at this one.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02871225000P?mv=rr

Also, if you are going to have several batteries in that new shop, it wouldn't hurt you to look at batterytender.com Their stuff is pricey, but I do have a lot of experience with it and it is worth the price. We used their multi-bank unit to keep motorcycle batteries nice and warm in the Colorado winters.

If you were a little closer, I'd just rent you my 6 year old son, and he would have everything in that shed all over your front lawn in 5 minutes. You wouldn't need to buy a new charger then.
 
Is there a good small battery charger. I have a big Craftsman charger 20 + years old that works great.

But I like to have a small charger I can carry to where I'm working(no garage).
I bought a small charger from Wallmart, well known brand, That has 6v/12v
and 3 charging speeds. It has a bad battery dection device.

JUNK

If the battery is real low it will trip the dector and won't charge. Each time I've tested the battery and they were good.

So do I have to hit the yard sales, and buy an older one without this feature. Or is there a good one out there.

Or is mine just defective. I will post the brand and model tommorrow.

Walter
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You might consider solar as an option. Our local farm store has them for about 20 bucks. The only requirement is the sun needs to peek through the clouds occasionally.
 
It appears to me the batt detector"whistle" is just something else to go wrong. I tried to use one w/ this to check lites on a tlr, won't work. Had to plug lites in to a vehicle. They just keep adding useless stuff to things so they can jack up the price.
OK, I'm off the soapbox,
Mike
 
Can't remember the name of mine but it's always been an awesome charger has 3 settings 2 amp 12 amp and high boost the best feature I think it has is it's also a deep cycle battery charger it has a switch for regular and deep cycle I use it all the time for tractors and my boat to.I think it's a schumacher.
 
Is there a good small battery charger. I have a big Craftsman charger 20 + years old that works great.

But I like to have a small charger I can carry to where I'm working(no garage).
I bought a small charger from Wallmart, well known brand, That has 6v/12v
and 3 charging speeds. It has a bad battery dection device.

JUNK

If the battery is real low it will trip the dector and won't charge. Each time I've tested the battery and they were good.

So do I have to hit the yard sales, and buy an older one without this feature. Or is there a good one out there.

Or is mine just defective. I will post the brand and model tommorrow.

Walter
Why not open up the unit and bypass the trip ???
 
I bought and returned 3 of that brand of battery chargers a few years ago--all were the same model "Shumacher" brand .that had 2 low amp settings (10 and 2 amps I think) and a 55 amp "starter/boost" feature--all three of them worked only a few days on the lower amp settings,every one croaked the first time when I used the 55 amp "boost" setting ---and I did not attempt to crank the vehicle over while it was "boosting",as per the manual instructed too--.

I let them charge for the 15 minute period they reccomended,and took off the cables before attempting to start my truck,it still barely turned over!--and next time I went to use them ,they were "dead"!!--no output at all--and I'd heard a circuit breaker clicking on and off all the while when I was using the boost feature too,on all 3 of them!..

I had my batteries tested,thinking they may have been junk-- and they tested OK,no shorted or bad cells,they were just low on charge!..the chargers were on sale for 27.99,usually went for 59 bucks,I think they knew they were junk, and simply hoped to sell out of that model,--the store had only a few left,after # 3 I asked for a refund,and got my cash back!
But I have another "trickle charger" 1 amp,of the same brand I got for a buck at a yard sale that works OK,its just pretty useless for anything other than keeping a battery "up"it wont charge a dead one..

I'd never buy another one of that brand though,not after that experince.."Century" brand ones are "iffy" too,I know guys who bought that brand new and they didn't work very long..

I have an old Craftsman charger my dad bought in the 70's when he got his first riding mower--it is a 10 amp one that also has an adustable output from .75 amps to 1.5 amps for small tractor and motorcycle batteries--works well still,but I've never seen it go above 6 amp on the 10 amp setting,even on a dead battery,and it takes the better part of a day to fully charge a low battery enough to get your vehicle to start--that kinda sucks...

I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a bigger charger on wheels for a reasonable price used at a swap meet or garage sale..or I may just put one of my GM alternators on my roto-tiller and use it for a charger instead to boost dead batteries..

For now I kep a good used "Duralast" battery on the trickle charger to use to jump start stuff,its better than a "jump pack",those things go dead too fast and the batteries in them die too early for my liking...most of them wont start my diesel truck either,not enough juice!..
 
This is only my opinion, take it for what it's worth. I'm 60, been into electronics/ mechanics/ HVAC / two way radio on/ off all my life.

STAY AWAY from cheap, complicated, regulated "battery tender" type units from Chi-asian places like Harbor Freight, unless, of course, you have a good fire insurance agent

I just use "basic" stuff, and on smaller batteries--like bikes and lawn equipment, I simply use a heavy turn signal bulb (1157) IN SERIES with the charging lead to limit the current. This allows use of say, 10A unregulated charger, and if the battery "was" pretty low, you can leave it on overnight. A glance at the bulb shows what's up, too

ALL basic charges without extra bells and "boost" functions are simply a transformer and rectifier. I used to repair them, and other than some come with silicon diodes and some (still use) selenium stacks, they are pretty basic

"Boost" function is indeed an over-advertised lie. It simply is not made to "last" Very low duty cycle.

MANY of the junk that "tries" to smart/ regulative/ protective, ---ain't--- Many of the regulated charges have poorly designed circuits with little thought to protection in case something fails. For example, a GOOD regulated 13.8 supply used on ANY electronics stuff will have overcurrent and overvoltage (crowbar) protection as well as the usual fuses on BOTH output and line. Most these junk chargers have a simple automotive auto--recycling breaker inside. These can allow a LOT of heat when something bad happens--a shorted cell, shorted diode, or even some fault in the transformer.

All that needs to happen in the cheaper regulated units is for the pass transistor to short--and now you have an UN regulated charger, so while you are off somewhere running errands or sleeping, the battery is heating, puking hydrogen and acid all over the building and maybe worse.

MY SOLUTION:

Don't use any of this junk. Learn to take the trouble to charge your battery and then UNHOOK it. If you can't remember (I can't) post a huge gigantic piece of paper on the fridge. If you have a larger charger, use a series bulb for current limiting.

OR spend the money (NOT Harbor Freight) on a good quality "tender" I doubt you can buy one for less than a hundred bucks.

(I know the flaming will start-----I know, I know, "you" have a Harbor Freight that's been on your farm for XXXXXX years and has never skipped a beat. OK, "you" are one. What about the hundreds that DID puke?)
 
I had a 20+ year old craftmen that went out last year. It was one of the big ones on wheels with the starting feature. I replaced it with one from HF for $39.00. It has 6V & 12V functions, 4 amp and 20amp charging and the start function. If only weighs about 15 lbs. Seems to be a great unit.
I also bought one of the jump starters you recharge. Now unless I'm working on a mower I just jump it off and let it re-charge itself.
 
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I originally purchased this for my Ducati ST4 and then bought a second one for my tractor. I keep this on my JD 445 throughout the winter. The adapter plug is connected to my batter and the connector hangs out of an accessible area. I unplug it when I go out to plow and plug it back in when I'm done. It's pretty easy and low maintenance with the adapter plug. I might consider getting an extension at some point so I have more options in where to park the tractor during the winter.

http://www.amazon.com/Deltran-SuperSmart-Battery-12-Volt-Charger/dp/B00068XCQU
 
Battery Tender is GREAT. I buy them on eBay for some pretty good prices. Don't ask, but with 3 motorcycle batteries to hold over to spring and then the tractor, I have 4 now.

I have the cheap battery tenders from Harbor Freight. I have three of them and if you just want to maintain a battery, they can't be beat for the price. As for an actual charger, you have been given some good suggestions already.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42292
 
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