Any suggestions? I do not have a spray attachment for the compressor due to the compressor needing work, But I was thinking of using a spray bottle? Also how can I thicken the oil so it will stick instead of just dripping off? How do I know if the oil has turned acidic from age?
Spraying Used Oil On Tractor
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I have a boat [small ship actually] with a hydraulic anchor windlass on the front deck. When buying the oil to fill the system, I was advised to buy the eco friendly stuff, because any leak on deck would run into the water, causing a visible slick and incurring a huge fine.
The system holds about 6 gallons of oil.
The secret of "ecologically friendly" hydraulic oil? mainly, it's heavier than water, so the spill [if it happens] wouldn't be visible.
The system holds about 6 gallons of oil.
The secret of "ecologically friendly" hydraulic oil? mainly, it's heavier than water, so the spill [if it happens] wouldn't be visible.
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I have personally watched a government agency dump thousands of gallons of gasoline into a lake to evaporate. If they didn't use their allotment of fuel, it would be reduced the next budget period. This occurred in the mid 1970s and the agency is in charge of every navigable waterway in the United States. My how times change...
A few years back, the supply line for my loader hydraulics failed and 2 gallons of Dexron ended up on one small patch of grass in the middle of the yard. Four years later, you couldn't tell where that spot was.
Fresh diesel fuel is still sprayed on roads for dust control today, with government (Environmental) approval.
That Cosmoline Rust-Veto is good stuff, if rather pricey. Their claim to easy removal with solvents I might have an argument with, unless they include a liberal amount of elbow grease as one of the solvents. lol
Fresh diesel fuel is still sprayed on roads for dust control today, with government (Environmental) approval.
That Cosmoline Rust-Veto is good stuff, if rather pricey. Their claim to easy removal with solvents I might have an argument with, unless they include a liberal amount of elbow grease as one of the solvents. lol
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I highly doubt diesel is sprayed on roads in this day in age. I believe they use calcium chloride for dust control on gravel...not cheap but less expensive than diesel.
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Of course you can't tell where the oil was 4 years later; on the surface. Oil will continue to seep into the sub soil with the potential of polluting the aquifer below. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean there's no damage.
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I've witnessed the soil being excavated at a small junkyard that was in bussiness since the late 20's ,and the dirt was greasy and black as coal,for the first 2 feet--after that it looked its normal color and showed no sign of the oil getting any further down...I've heard that dirt is the best "filter" known to mankind many times ,mostly by my elders...
....I guess they are right,look how water that runs off highways tainted with gas,can support life and look clean enough to drink after its passed thru enough sand...
They had to truck the soil to NH to be burned in an incinerator..the place now has new homes built on it,where once hundreds of cars met their fate...so far no one gotten MS or any other diseases from the "pollution"..but I'm sure it'll be blamed if anyone does.....
There is more than one new housing development built on former junkyard sites in local towns....one guy who bought a home at one site got his picture in the paper,when he unearthed a leaf spring with his roto-tiller when making a garden plot!--and he found a lot of car parts half buried only a few inches deep!!..he was planning to sue to get his money back after learning what the land once was used for...
One thing I noticed during a walk thru a local junkyard the other day,was the fact I haven't seen so many different animals anywhere in a long time!...even in sanctuaries near my house..I saw a rare red squirrel hoarding walnuts in a ford vans rear quarter panels. a bunch of frogs,even a painted turtle,diving into puddles when I approached..snakes too !!..
..you rarely see any around your yard any more..if they pollute so bad,why do so many animals seem to like living in the junkyards?...We had herds of deer run away every morning when we opened the gates at the junkyard I used to work at,I guess they felt safe there,and they ate all the tall grass between the cars..
....I guess they are right,look how water that runs off highways tainted with gas,can support life and look clean enough to drink after its passed thru enough sand...
They had to truck the soil to NH to be burned in an incinerator..the place now has new homes built on it,where once hundreds of cars met their fate...so far no one gotten MS or any other diseases from the "pollution"..but I'm sure it'll be blamed if anyone does.....
There is more than one new housing development built on former junkyard sites in local towns....one guy who bought a home at one site got his picture in the paper,when he unearthed a leaf spring with his roto-tiller when making a garden plot!--and he found a lot of car parts half buried only a few inches deep!!..he was planning to sue to get his money back after learning what the land once was used for...
One thing I noticed during a walk thru a local junkyard the other day,was the fact I haven't seen so many different animals anywhere in a long time!...even in sanctuaries near my house..I saw a rare red squirrel hoarding walnuts in a ford vans rear quarter panels. a bunch of frogs,even a painted turtle,diving into puddles when I approached..snakes too !!..
..you rarely see any around your yard any more..if they pollute so bad,why do so many animals seem to like living in the junkyards?...We had herds of deer run away every morning when we opened the gates at the junkyard I used to work at,I guess they felt safe there,and they ate all the tall grass between the cars..
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thanks.. Bill.H, i'll look into that. :thanku:
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Looks like it may be a good product to use. At the risk of being labeled "environmentally unfriendly," I would just spray oil now and then.
My guess is, if you have tractors, garden tractors or tillers, you are using many "unfriendly" products. I guess we could all find alternative forms of energy to power our tractors, electric maybe? Then I would just have to buy more from that nuke that was also considered "unfriendly" back in the 70's. Remember all the sit-downs, protests, arrests because of these dangerous plants being built? I would also need batterys, hmm, wonder what I do with them when they won't hold a charge anymore? stack em in the backyard I guess. Naaaa, drill, drill, drill. Bring on the keystone pipeline. I can't afford a new electric car anyway,, besides, I like my 82 Chevy 4wd pickup. I wish I had sprayed some oil on that.
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Cranberry bogs here must use "food grade" hydraulic oils in all their pickers and other bog equipment,in case a hose or pump fails,and dumps the fluid into the bogs...
I heard it is non-toxic and can be ingested in small quantities without any harmfull effects...but I wonder about motor oil in the engines powering those machines,most have Kohler K-91 4 hp engines or diesels--that isn't food grade!...how much of it ends up in the bogs,from exhaust fumes,minor drips,etc,we'll never know,I guess......maybe thats what that weird taste was in our cranberry sauce last thanksgiving??...:eck16:
I heard it is non-toxic and can be ingested in small quantities without any harmfull effects...but I wonder about motor oil in the engines powering those machines,most have Kohler K-91 4 hp engines or diesels--that isn't food grade!...how much of it ends up in the bogs,from exhaust fumes,minor drips,etc,we'll never know,I guess......maybe thats what that weird taste was in our cranberry sauce last thanksgiving??...:eck16:
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So, I kinda understand the reasoning you're using by spraying oil on a road driven vehicle that's exposed to road salt. but how does this apply to garden/lawn tractors or riding mowers?
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Hmmm $50,000 Pyramid style here:
things that rust perhaps?
things that are exposed to rust causing chemicals? (compost)
Things you want to keep nice?
BTW I went over my entire Tractor frame as well, and maybe had about three drops spill on my garage floor, and no drips on the ground outside, so perhaps you could postpone the imminent DOOM from used oil on garden tractors?
(still Glad too)
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Fertilizer! I forget exactly what I had put down the one and only time I didn't clean the spreader immediately after use. Next time I went to use it I found where the dust had stuck and eaten through the paint and into the steel. Quite a rusty mess.
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Hey man, lets sum it all up, shall we? Spraying oil on a tractor. I would not spray oil on a tractor and run it . If I wer putting the tractor up for the winter, than YES. It's a good idea. There is no other reason why this topic should dragg on. We made good points about why we should NOT use oil as it soaks into the ground. We also made good points why we do it anyway.
I use WD-40 OIL to spray my tractor down 4 times a year. Thats the topic. OIL. :greendr:
I use WD-40 OIL to spray my tractor down 4 times a year. Thats the topic. OIL. :greendr:
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TooTall999, here's a video that I found interesting. Turn the sound off, if you want, and watch for the scenery. The scene that got my attention is at 0:34, and is very fleeting. The river scene is also very interesting.
http://oilsands.alberta.ca/about.html
I'll draw my own conclusions from mother earths antics, thank you.
http://oilsands.alberta.ca/about.html
I'll draw my own conclusions from mother earths antics, thank you.
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Maybe you should do some research on the contents of USED,WASTE OIL not the crude that is already in the earth,,,big difference
Better yet, research the contents of the naturally occurring crude oil and it's polluting effect on the Athabasca River downstream from the oil sands.
Unfortunately, there is no data base from even 100 years ago to indicate just how much of that pollution is man made or natural. Water is the closest thing there is to a universal solvent. Anything that is in the crude oil sands that can be regarded as a pollutant in water will show up in a river that is flowing over the oil sands. I don't know the physical make-up of the sand part of the oil sands, but any heavy metals present in small quantities will pollute to the same degree as used motor oil will.
I'm not advocating the dumping of waste oil. I'm simply pointing out that the same issues can be found as natural occurrances and Mother Nature deals with them just fine, and She does it with a much smaller negative environmental impact for Her clean-up efforts than what we can accomplish.
She has lessons to teach. It's up to us to learn from those lessons. We are amateurs at creating toxic compounds and cleaning up the results. She is a master........... At both parts of that equation.
We may not like the results of Her efforts.
Unfortunately, there is no data base from even 100 years ago to indicate just how much of that pollution is man made or natural. Water is the closest thing there is to a universal solvent. Anything that is in the crude oil sands that can be regarded as a pollutant in water will show up in a river that is flowing over the oil sands. I don't know the physical make-up of the sand part of the oil sands, but any heavy metals present in small quantities will pollute to the same degree as used motor oil will.
I'm not advocating the dumping of waste oil. I'm simply pointing out that the same issues can be found as natural occurrances and Mother Nature deals with them just fine, and She does it with a much smaller negative environmental impact for Her clean-up efforts than what we can accomplish.
She has lessons to teach. It's up to us to learn from those lessons. We are amateurs at creating toxic compounds and cleaning up the results. She is a master........... At both parts of that equation.
We may not like the results of Her efforts.
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I feel for your concerns, TooTall, but, please understand they are your concerns.
You are allowed to voice them, but, we are not forced to believe them.
Statistically, the few gallons we dump on the ground is nothing compared to the previous generations antics with oil.
My brother-in-law sprayed used motor oil on his farm roads to keep down the dust. He learned this from the county that did the same thing.
What do you think asphalt is made out of!!?? :dunno: Look it up, there are thousands of miles of oil based roads in this country (maybe millions!!?? :dunno
It is all in the statistics. Yea, ecology believers want to stop every drop.
Go to a gun range and look at the tons of lead in the ground.
The earth is big, our antics with oil is small.
We should be careful, but, ......
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I hate to admit it but when I just check my oil, I use a rag or a paper towel and it ends up in a landfill somewhere. Shame on me for checking my oil.
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