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I've gotten many tire beads on stiff tires that wont touch the sides of the rim,to seat using a bucket..one that has a big enough diameter so only the tire touches the bucket,and the rim is free to fit inside it..a 5 gallon pain is about the right size for most tractor tires,a garbage can can be used on larger tires like a car's..

You'll also need some type of round disc that fits in the center of the rim,to cover up the center hole,and lug nut holes.one not so large it'll cover the valve stem though--just the lug holes and center hole..you need to be able to add air!..

I find an old lid from a kitchen pan works good,and it has a handle..

I put some bead sealer,grease,or some other type of sealer around the rim beads first..and use liquid dish soap on the tire bead..

Place the tire & rim over the open end of the bucket,valve stem side facing up--then push down on the rim using the pan lid with the palm of your hand..press hard enough to force the upper bead against the rim,and apply the air chuck to the valve stem..
The tire will want to push against you,so hold pressure against it..the air trapped inside the bucket inflates the tire and pushes the bottom bead against the rim,and after a few attempts it usually pops into place...

I had to use this method when putting skinny tires on wider rims often over the years on my cars & trucks..

I've used starting fluid too,but mostly on things like large bucket loader tires and bigger dump trucks,tractor trailers.

I've seen one of those tires explode when too much was used,and I also knew a guy who was killed when one he tried inflating at a tire shop was in a hurry and didn't put the tire in the "cage" before inflating it..
He was blown 25 feet straight up into the steel building's roof,and actually tore a sheet of the roofing partly off,and he was suspended there hanging from it,it was a gory scene according to the witnesses...:eek:..
 
Place the tire & rim over the open end of the bucket,valve stem side facing up--then push down on the rim using the pan lid with the palm of your hand..press hard enough to force the upper bead against the rim,and apply the air chuck to the valve stem..
I'm cornfused:confused: What I picture doing this is that the wheel will drop into the bucket until the top flange of the wheel hits and is held by the top bead of the tire. I picture the bottom flange of the wheel hanging into the bucket, farther down into the bucket than the bottom bead of the tire. Pushing the wheel down with the pot lid would, it seems, just push its bottom flange farther down into the bucket and farther from the bottom bead of the tire.

Sorry, maybe it a lack of coffee... :dunno:
 
Discussion starter · #44 ·
I'm cornfused:confused: What I picture doing this is that the wheel will drop into the bucket until the top flange of the wheel hits and is held by the top bead of the tire. I picture the bottom flange of the wheel hanging into the bucket, farther down into the bucket than the bottom bead of the tire. Pushing the wheel down with the pot lid would, it seems, just push its bottom flange farther down into the bucket and farther from the bottom bead of the tire.

Sorry, maybe it a lack of coffee... :dunno:
A how to video would be great!
 
Has anyone purchased these?

If not what did you buy?
Photo?
Price?

Thank you

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O5XTM2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I have a set of Turf Savers on one of my 16Gs. They're okay, but they're really golf cart tires. I have the similar Carlisle Turf Masters on another 16G and they have significantly better traction on grass, but do no more harm to the turf. In fact, the rounder shoulders are actually more gentle than the Turf Saver's more square/sharp profile.

The 23x8.50-12 size are about $70 each. I got mine from Summit Racing.

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This isnt to much off topic so I'll tell it real fast. I was amazed when I stopped at a place somewhere in Ohio about 8 yrs ago to ask for directions and there was a guy standing in the middle of a huge tire that must have went on a EUC truck because he had a grinder and some other tools and I asked him "what are you doing in that tire?" and he replied "fixing it, these are so expensive people get them fixed". I couldnt hardly believe it.
 
I'm cornfused:confused: What I picture doing this is that the wheel will drop into the bucket until the top flange of the wheel hits and is held by the top bead of the tire. I picture the bottom flange of the wheel hanging into the bucket, farther down into the bucket than the bottom bead of the tire. Pushing the wheel down with the pot lid would, it seems, just push its bottom flange farther down into the bucket and farther from the bottom bead of the tire.

Sorry, maybe it a lack of coffee... :dunno:
once ya apply air to the stem.. the tire will rise out of the bucket till the lower side seats on the rim.. all the bucket is doin is contain the air from escapin into the atmosphere.. the pot lid on top is keepin the air from commin out the axle hole..
 
This was my solution to rolling around on the garage floor fighting with tires.



I got it from Amazon. Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Goplus®-C...ilpage_o02_s00

I used lag shields for 2&1/2" x 1/2" lag bolts to secure it to the floor. I wanted to be able to secure it and still be able to remove it when it wasn't being used. I had considered drop anchors, but being on the garage floor I thought that dirt and debris would just foul up fine thread fasteners.

As far as a review of the tool goes, I'd say get yourself at least a 30" decent tire spoon (glad I did) as the tool that comes with it is pretty janky. At this price point, it's obviously a Chinese production item and has normal manufacturing issues. The adjustable rim claw is only connected to the threaded shaft by a large nut (I will be changing that to a connecting nut). The threaded shaft its self is mounted in the wrong direction i.e. lefty-tighty, righty-loosey. The bead breaker part of the mechanism works very well so far with very little effort. I was able to pull the tires off and put them on with a tiny fraction of the effort it took to do it the old way with vise grips and prybars. I didn't time myself, but I'd say a fair guess for a front tire would be about 30 seconds to take off and the same to put on.
 
This was my solution to rolling around on the garage floor fighting with tires.



I got it from Amazon. Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Goplus®-C...ilpage_o02_s00

I used lag shields for 2&1/2" x 1/2" lag bolts to secure it to the floor. I wanted to be able to secure it and still be able to remove it when it wasn't being used. I had considered drop anchors, but being on the garage floor I thought that dirt and debris would just foul up fine thread fasteners.

As far as a review of the tool goes, I'd say get yourself at least a 30" decent tire spoon (glad I did) as the tool that comes with it is pretty janky. At this price point, it's obviously a Chinese production item and has normal manufacturing issues. The adjustable rim claw is only connected to the threaded shaft by a large nut (I will be changing that to a connecting nut). The threaded shaft its self is mounted in the wrong direction i.e. lefty-tighty, righty-loosey. The bead breaker part of the mechanism works very well so far with very little effort. I was able to pull the tires off and put them on with a tiny fraction of the effort it took to do it the old way with vise grips and prybars. I didn't time myself, but I'd say a fair guess for a front tire would be about 30 seconds to take off and the same to put on.
I'm gonna add one lil bit of info.. when u remove the mounting lags so u can move the machine to a storage place.. insert the lags back in the floor holes.. just snug them up a bit then.. get then as close as possible to the floor.. u can walk or drive over them without gettin dirt & trash in the holes..

also I got told this when I clicked ur link..

Sorry! We couldn't find that page. Try searching or go to Amazon's home page.
 
Discussion starter · #52 ·
I have a set of Turf Savers on one of my 16Gs. They're okay, but they're really golf cart tires. I have the similar Carlisle Turf Masters on another 16G and they have significantly better traction on grass, but do no more harm to the turf. In fact, the rounder shoulders are actually more gentle than the Turf Saver's more square/sharp profile.

The 23x8.50-12 size are about $70 each. I got mine from Summit Racing.

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Thanks Mike,

I might get the Turf Masters now. They look better as well. :fing32:
 
Discussion starter · #53 ·
This was my solution to rolling around on the garage floor fighting with tires.



I got it from Amazon. Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Goplus®-C...ilpage_o02_s00

I used lag shields for 2&1/2" x 1/2" lag bolts to secure it to the floor. I wanted to be able to secure it and still be able to remove it when it wasn't being used. I had considered drop anchors, but being on the garage floor I thought that dirt and debris would just foul up fine thread fasteners.

As far as a review of the tool goes, I'd say get yourself at least a 30" decent tire spoon (glad I did) as the tool that comes with it is pretty janky. At this price point, it's obviously a Chinese production item and has normal manufacturing issues. The adjustable rim claw is only connected to the threaded shaft by a large nut (I will be changing that to a connecting nut). The threaded shaft its self is mounted in the wrong direction i.e. lefty-tighty, righty-loosey. The bead breaker part of the mechanism works very well so far with very little effort. I was able to pull the tires off and put them on with a tiny fraction of the effort it took to do it the old way with vise grips and prybars. I didn't time myself, but I'd say a fair guess for a front tire would be about 30 seconds to take off and the same to put on.

I will be buying something like this soon. I tried to get the rear tires off tonight with crow bars and screw drivers with no luck. Lots of grunts and sweat. There was no way I was going to be able to break that beed no matter how hard I tried. I was able to get the front tire off but its beed was released and it was still a challenge.
 
I'm gonna add one lil bit of info.. when u remove the mounting lags so u can move the machine to a storage place.. insert the lags back in the floor holes.. just snug them up a bit then.. get then as close as possible to the floor.. u can walk or drive over them without gettin dirt & trash in the holes..

also I got told this when I clicked ur link..

Sorry! We couldn't find that page. Try searching or go to Amazon's home page.
One thing I saw someone else do with one of these, is if you don't want to do the whole semi-permanent mounting it to the floor, is to get some 2"x2" square tubing, and either weld or bolt it to the side of the vertical shaft, at the height of a vehicles hitch, so you just slide it into the hitch when you want to use it and slide it out for storage.
 
I'm gonna add one lil bit of info.. when u remove the mounting lags so u can move the machine to a storage place.. insert the lags back in the floor holes.. just snug them up a bit then.. get then as close as possible to the floor.. u can walk or drive over them without gettin dirt & trash in the holes..

also I got told this when I clicked ur link..

Sorry! We couldn't find that page. Try searching or go to Amazon's home page.

Sorry about that Whirly. Try this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Goplus%C2%AE-Changer-Motorcycle-GoCart-Trailer/dp/B016RIGBP6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

**EDIT** I tried this link and it worked on my end. **EDIT**
 
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