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Kbeitz

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I never thought this would happen... I was watching not to drive on to anything that would lift only on the out side tire... I bet I only used the duels on this tractor for about 5 hours... I'm not happy with this tractor... It tips way to easy without the duels and brakes axles with them...
I see a C-snap-ring in the axle housing and I'm hopping this is the only thing that holds the axle in the tyranny... Could any one elaborate on this ???
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The service department told me not to put duels on the tractor... They said to just load the tires... I think the duels picked up a big rock that would not fit between the tire and the backhoe support foot... I did not see what happened all I heard was a loud snap... I was driving on flat ground not digging or doing any work when it happen...
 
I doubt the Snap Ring is the only thing holding in the axle, maybe the bearing behind it. You could only get so lucky though if that's all that holds the axle in. Were your duals two different sizes or was the inside one flat? The picture of the stack makes them look different.
 
That was shock to me now. I thought add dual on gt but now change mind go with ag or wide tires than dual.


That look it require apart transmission to replace axle. sorry to hear bad to your tractor
 
DOHHHHHH!!!! Oh man, that does NOT look like a fun day!!!!!

My guess, and its only a guess... Being that the outer end of the axle does not have a pressed on bearing, and a retainer, the axle is going to be held in with C clips. Can you get to the dif on that tractor? If so I bet there is a small C clip in the inside of the axle where it goes through the spider gear of the axle.
 
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I can see a snap-ring holding in the outer axle bearing and I'm hoping that's what holds in the axle... If it does then I will need to weld something to the end of the axle to help pull it out... I will go to to my dealer Monday to find out what I need to do... Unless someone knows where I can download the parts book for this model. Getting in the tranny looks to be a full summer job... As far as I can see there is no damage to the axle housing...
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Wow Kevin! That is rough. Looking at the grain structure of the fracture, the metalurgy looks good. I'd say it wasn't a manufacturing defect, and that some kind of stress, probably compounded by the duals, is the culprit. How it isn't too expensive of a fix!
 
Having torn down a few industrial gearboxes where I work I just don't believe that's the only thing that could possibly hold in an axle on a tractor, there would be too much end load for the snap ring to hold that much load. Hopefully it is and that would make an easy rebuild especially if it's just splines on the other end of the shaft. It looks like there might be slight damage to the snap ring groove but that shouldn't hurt a thing but I believe you're right about no other damage. Curious, did you hit the inner race of the bearing with a punch or did that happen when it broke? Also is there a shoulder where it broke, if not that shiny outer ring where it broke means it's probably a case hardened shaft. You got a nice clean break, I seen 5"-6" axles that came in broken from the field at work with clean breaks like this and cause surprisingly little damage to anything else except the operators underwear.
 
I'd say there's a C-clip on the inside end of the axle shaft like some of the Dodge truck rear ends.The snap ring in the photo most likely is a retainer for the outer axle bearing.
 
There was a guy on here a few months ago that wanted to know about putting dual tires on a Kubota. I told the guy he should spin the rear tires around so that they dished out instead of in. I did that to my Kubota and got the rear tire distance spread further apart by six inches. The tippiness has since been a non-issue.

The guy was convinced it looked "cool" however and did it anyway. Not sure how his tractor made out, but a Kubota's rear axle is pretty light in my opinion.
 
Im sorry to see and hear you are having so much diffculty reagrding slopes and tipping - and that is the first snapped axle I have seen or heard about for a BX23 series. :eek:mg:

When you get the BX back on the mend, you might want to consider one of those articulated machines like a Steiner or Power Trac, instead of a sub-cut or CUT which seem to be to tippy for your needs.

I know you just purchased a ZTR, but I wonder if you have used or seen a Wright Stander ZTR machine? IMHO real good traction, and stability on moderate hills. You stand up on it, and can direct your weight accordingly reagrding slopes or hills
 
Heres a schematic on the axle assembly. I downloaded the BX23 parts manual from Tractorsmart.com free of charge from their website..

The axle seems to clip into the rear just like a std automotive rear.
 

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Looks like then internal/ext. snap rings/new bearing and new seal for the parts., according to Volfandt's diagram..
And if'n that's all--you are luckier than I would be!!

Kevin--I looked really close at the end of the shattered axle stub, and it doesn't seem to be inferior-metal--no white blemish marrks or tell-tale streaks...In my mind, I can only imagine with the added wt. of the extra tire, and/or maybe a big rock did get hung up...
Pure speculation, though....
 
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The tire and wheel is very light... I have no idea what broke my axle...

Grateful11... What your seeing is the inter race of the bearing split right down the middle... Maybe that's what broke the axle...


Volfandt ... How long is the tractor warranty good for??? I got less that 100 hrs on the tractor ...
 
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