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Surging throttle...possible causes??

1.3K views 3 replies 3 participants last post by  willierides  
#1 ·
Ok. I rebuilt this tractor about a year ago or more. I acquired it blown up and replaced the rods, pistons, rings, oil slinger, starter gear....bunch of stuff I don't remember. When I first started it up, it raced at high rpm no matter what. After fiddling with and adjusting the governor, it ran like a top. I think the reason it blew up is because the governor was likely out of adjustment.

I mowed with it all last year with no problems. It sat all winter. When I went to use it this year mice had built nests packed in around the flywheel housing, down around the heads, etc. I pulled out what I could and ran it. It didn't run right so I broke down and took the flywheel housing and some shields off and really made sure I got all the grass, paper, etc. out that the nests were made of. It seemed to run pretty good.

Then I noticed it was surging. It seemed to be at no load, so I suspected the governor. I fiddled around, it didn't make much difference, I used it....then the other day it started surging worse and quit on me. Of course it died on the other side of the property from my shop, so I had to run back and forth getting tools, etc. Pulled the fuel filter and made sure it was clean. Then I removed the air filter and stuff and checked the carb to see if it was getting gas. It appeared that there was water in the gas. So I drained the gas, almost all of it, my can got full, put fresh gas in and put it all back together. Started it and it seemed to run fine, so I parked it. Then today it was surging bad again. Took the airfilter and stuff off so I can see the carb, governor, etc. The governor "oscillates" and causes the motor to rev up and down pretty consistently. I tried adjusting the governor by bending the tang either way, tried adjusting the screw on the throttle mechanism.....no change. I can physically hold the throttle mechanism still (fighting the governor) and the motor runs steadily.

Does anyone know, or have an educated theory, why this would happen? I don't know of anything other than the fact that it sat outside over the winter (hence I figured water made it's way into the gas tank) that would cause a change in how it ran or would cause the governor to go out of adjustment. Does water float on gas? Maybe I didn't get the water out? But would that cause these symptoms? Could it just be dirt in the carb?

I'm kind of lost here. What a pain. Thanks for any help or suggestions.
 
#3 ·
Water is heavier than gas. Therefor it settles to the bottom of the tank , carb , etc. Find a small clear plastic container . A 20oz pop bottle will do fine . Carefully drain about 5/10 ozs of gas into the bottle and let it sit for a couple of hours. Any water or crude should settle to the bottom. Also you need to clean out the carb. Water will settle in the bottom and it will run fine until the tractor starts moving and stirs it up where it will be sucked into the jets/passages and cause problems Hope this helps.
Slim
 
#4 ·
Thanks guys. I'll put the beast in the shop and pull the carb and give it a good cleaning. I bet it did get some contamination. When I was checking the fuel lines there was some gunk in the line, ahead of the filter.

I'll also drain a bit of gas and see if there's water still in it. Thanks again!