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Removing the magneto on an L model

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8.2K views 21 replies 6 participants last post by  edwardgoodridge  
#1 ·
How much of a problem is it to remove the magneto on a L model. I need to service the points & the last time I did it, it was pretty difficult to say the least, doing it with the mag installed.
 
#5 ·
I am not familiar with Gravely but on other engines with the external mag such as Wisconsin there is a pipe plug in the casting behind the mounting face. Remove the plug to see the drive gear then with the spark plug out rotate the flywheel until you see a tooth with a bevel cut out. Now remove the mag and do not disturb the flywheel until the unit is reinstalled.
 
#10 ·
The marks are on the face of the mag but you should only use those as a guide to get you close. jrd's instructions are pretty fool proof...just don't crank the engine while you work on the mag and you should get it back together just fine.
 
#11 ·
Right.

Check out the condensed service manuals (you've already downloaded those and looked through them, right? :) ) There's a good drawing of what the face of the mag looks like, including the timing marks.
 
#12 ·
I assume this is a strap start L and this is a well used wico magneto. It tends to fire a little past tdc as it wears out. Which is a safe place to leave it. If not happy with that then consider do the engine timing which is not difficult but its dangerous if you should by mistake advance the timing too far. Good luck with your project.
 
#14 ·
Why don't you consider this. Pull the spark plug and ground the magneto. By putting a small screw driver behind the stop button. Turn the strap pulley clockwise by hand to take out the slack. Continue on slowly until magneto impulse arm clicks. Hold camshaft right where it is with locking pliers. Now go ahead and make your own marks. The chain probably should come off if this is electric start. I'd do almost anything to avoid pulling magneto. Just to clean the points. Good luck with your project.
 
#16 ·
The point of my earlier post was not "How do you get the timing right". It was "how do you get the timing back where it was, if you pull the mag off".

It's correct that when setting timing, you're better off working out where the mag actually fires, than simply trusting the marks.

I disagree about pulling the mag. I can do a much better job by getting the unit up on a bench where I can see it, than trying to do it on the machine. There are often multiple right ways to do a job.
 
#17 ·
Several years ago I went thru the same problem when starting the engine. At that time I removed the points and cleaned them. What a pain in the butt with the mag installed but it did fix my problem. This machine does not get ran that often & I started having problems again. I did remove the top half of the points and cleaned it but tried to clean the bottom half while the mag was still installed. I found that hard to do & that is why I posted the question. Although what I did, did help considerablly, I am going to remove the mag and see how that goes. It has to be easier than trying to work on the points while the mag is installed.
 
#20 ·
Different Ls have different Magnetos and also different mounting holes. It all depends on when built and if the Mag was replaced. You can have either two or four mounting holes in the chassis for where they mount. So then you also have some that use two bolts and some that use one bolt and one stud. Two bolt units normally have lengthwise pattern while one bolt/one stud ones have them crosswise. If someone lost the stud and installed a bolt, those are a royal pain.