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#1 ·
My tractor refurb is moving along slowly. I have been trying to fix the leaking rear axles, which is how all this got started in the first place. Having never done this I'm not real sure if I'm moving in the right direction. This first picture is of how I've put in the rear axle oil seal onto the axle. Is this right?

I've seen pictures of how the axles should fit the hub. Here's a shot of how one of mine are fits. The splines are just proud of the hub splines, but they don't stand proud of that ring around the end of the axle, so the washer fits fine. I put RTV on the splines and the ring where the washer will press.

The other problem I had was with the steering box. I hadn't noticed that the steering arms have four "indexing grooves" (for lack of a better term). That caused the arms to be 'out of sync'. And to fix it I had to take it apart enough to slip the sector one tooth back. All is well, but it begs the question about aligning the front wheels. How do us shade tree mechanics make that happen properly?

Thanks for the help guys, I'll keep you posted.
 

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Your hubs and or axles are worn.. usually the soft cast hubs wear first, vs the hard axles.. thae fact that you can get the axle splines standing out from the hub proves this. if you can't get the 450ft# of torque on the axle nut before it bottoms on the axle splines.. you will either need to repalce the hubs ( 50$ each or so ).. or do the poor mans trick of shimming them with metal band strapping from a pallate.. and cut into strips and lay in the hub splines, then torque down, use it for an hour, retorque.. use it for 10hr, retorque and go.

the steering fore and aft sector align 1-way correctly, only, in order to be timed correct. in addition, you also must mate them to the ballnut correctly. the I&T fo-4 tells you how to count the teeth on the sector gear and what teeth mesh.. when you get that right, both steering arms will be swept back slightly.. then you use the draglinks and set the front wheel toe in to about 1/4"

soundguy
 
#4 ·
Sounder answered everything correctly as usual - I would only add (since you did say shadetree mechanic directions) that the easiest way to align the front wheels is to take two measurements. One from inside tire to inside of the other tire on the front side (closest to the radiator) about halfway up, then a second measurement from inside tire to inside of the other tire closest to the drivers seat about halfway up. Compare these two measurments and the front of the tire should be 1/4" shorter than the back of the tire measurement. This is how you get that 1/4" toe in Sounder speaks of.

Me - I prefer 1/2" - 1" of toe in on those worn down steering sector teeth you spoke about to keep the wobble down as you move across the pasture if you have a 9N/2N or early 8N setup.

HTH,
Dan
 
#5 · (Edited)
Thanks guys.

I did manage to get it torqued properly, but I'll have to put off untill later replacing the hub and/or the axle. First I have to get everything bolted back together and off of the lawn! I'll put in a picture of the axle end. It looks kind of buggered to me. Can you tell from this? If that is the case, then a new axle is in order...jeez!

So, how do you get differential oil out of brand new brake shoes? Maybe I could run it around for a while with only the other brake installed! That's about how well it worked before!:sidelaugh

The toe-in sounds straight forward enough. I have the later model steering box so I'll go for 1/4" to start.
 

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#7 ·
That axle is gone - worn from running the hubs too loose too long. Needs to be replaced as well as the hybs.

As far as getting oil off the brake pads - spray good with brake cleaner, wipe with clean paper towels. Heat up with a torch until the oil bubbles to the top - don't hold the torch in one spot too long, wave it around. Wipe with clean paper towels and clean again with brake cleaner. Repeat until oil stops bubbling to the top. It will take SEVERAL repeats, but will eventually stop bubbling to the top. Use a whole can of brake fluid and a whole roll of cheap paper towels. I have successfully cleaned pads up this way.

Dan
 
#8 ·
Ditto what dan says.. when you do an axle.. replace it's hub as well.. no need to start half way worn.

brake and carb cleaner is about the best stuff as dan points out.. you might get by with naptha or straight laquer thinner.. but the spray cleaner is easy.

a plumbers torch is plenty of heat.

be carefull and don't start any fires!

soundguy