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manonthehill

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Can you image a design/quality team saying, “it’s good enough, let’s send it off to production!” This level of quality leaves me wondering what else was “good enough.” Would you tolerate this level abrupt stopping in your passenger car? And passenger cars have “lemon laws” that unfortunately do not apply to tractors (I checked). The Kubota transmission design team should be rounded up sent to their nearest competitor.

Check out the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRYLhbFFOM

For all you owners, I think it’s too late. The resale value has fallen as the market is flooded with people dumping them. I also hear Kubota is quietly buying some back. They seem to have stopped that. I’m sure they see what’s happening to the market. I would dump mine too, but I’d loose too much money.

Now my wife won’t use the tractor and I’m not confidant in the safety to allow my 14 year old son to use it. I bought it so other could mow, now I’m screwed.

The John Deere was a little more money, but in hindsight, I should have stepped up!
 
Manonthehill,
Wow, what a shame that they will not fix this issue or at least offer some sort of good trade offers. I have seen many posts on the problem and many have said it can be of varying degree etc. Nevertheless I think they know it was problem because the newer models do not have it and the older 1830 1500 and 2230 do not have this issue either. (I have noticed a lot of trade ins and sales on these models as well). Can this be alleviated at all by easing off of the pedal or not? Do all these models have this problem? I have seen where many do but others seem to like their machines. I really like my old 1500, but would be aggravated if it acted like that and on the hill I mow it probably would not work.
Good Luck with it-TPS
 
No affence but you look like your ready to party not operate the tractor.

You don't make a very good case while your wearing sandale's. If the point of the youtube video was to get Kubota to do something, you should look more like you know what your doing.
 
With almost 100hs in less then 90 days on my BX2360 I don't or have nor have I had that problem. Perhaps if I put that much weight on the seat and a couple of full grass bags on the back and did what he did on that hill, it might work for Me. An then again it may be the nut holding the wheel??????
 
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You are right, I was not dressed for series tractor work. But my intent was to show one of the many bothersome qualities for the transmission.

As for Kubota, I know they don’t care about me or any other BX owner. My intent was to vent my frustration.
 
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but how about some words here about your experience or a link to someone who has.

Perhaps I've missed earlier posts on this issue.
Artpb, there is a long, long thread on this whole issue. Nothing posted in a few weeks but if you want to read all about it, here's the link.

http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=56578

I traded my 32 hour BX1850 back to my dealer for the BX1860 with added incentive from Kubota (read additional discounts). Still cost me some $$ to trade up, but less than it would have if not for Kubota assistance. But, from all I've read, the Kubota trade assistance is not uniform across all dealers. Seems many don't know about it or even their regional sales rep. Go figure!
 
Zero-turn mowers would act the same way if they had no Dash-pots...
A device consisting of a piston that moves within a cylinder containing oil, used to dampen and control motion.
hm()A dashpot is a mechanical device, a damper which resists motion via viscous friction. The resulting force is proportional to the velocity, but acts in the opposite direction, slowing the motion and absorbing energy. It is commonly used in conjunction with a spring (which acts to resist displacement). Linear dashpots are generally specified by stroke (amount of linear displacement) and damping coefficient (force per velocity). A dashpot slows the sudden movement down into a steady and gentle movement .
 
Manonthehill,
A friend of mine that has a BX tells me that he only uses the forward pedal
and lifts it up to go in reverse and he has a better feel for the tractor. IMHO,
the front weight will cure the problem. Kubota makes an excellent tractor and
I came close to buying one, as they are very high on my list. They are built
like a tank.:trink39:
 
I too had a BX2350. The transmission was a problem I thought could be managed by feathering off the reverse until one day I forgot and the stop was a shock. After that I just did not enjoy a machine I really loved. It was very hard to part with it but after much deliberation took the Kubota offer and went with a 2360. There is no problem with the transmission on this model. I am very happy with my dealer and my tractor but this company leaves me cold. Whats more ridiclous than the transmission is the way this company is handling there customers.
 
I also complained about my BX1850 hard stop and my dealer helped me into a BX2660 and I still love Orange.

NOW, after looking at your video a few times, it looks to me like your grass bags are about 3/4 full. As they move front to back, they are solid, and not acting empty to me. You are also backing DOWN a hill. I say you are exaggerating the problem.

I remember helping my Dad feed cows with a 9N Ford. The neighbor built a wood box for the back of it and Dad would fill it with silage. I had to ride on the hood of the tractor to hold it down. He finally moved up to a MF135. Same problem with heavy weight on back. Finally he added weights on the grill. MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME WITH YOUR KUBOTA. Common sense goes a long way.
 
I have been following several threads concerning this issue, both here and on other forums. Kubota is certainly aware of the problem but the only fix appears to be a full hydro swap. It is my understanding that this is not possible due to the way it is mounted on the frame, not to mention the enormous cost that would be involved. It appears that some Kubota dealers are working with Kubota to offer tradeups at very reasonable prices to affected owners. There is not much else they can do at this point other than offer a free tradeup(even more expensive), but they have revamped the hydros and resolved the problem in current models. Based on my own experience so far, I believe they make a quality product and would not hesitate to recommend them. Some folks have adjusted the way they operate in reverse and are making due. For those who now hate their 50 series tractor, why be irritated every time you drive it. Call Kubota and your dealer and see what they offer. For anyone looking to purchase a new one, the problem is fixed and there are no other issues. They really are very good tractors. :)
 
Many years ago, AUDI had an issue with people claiming that there were problems with uncontrolled acceleration due to their cruise control. They were buying back cars and then reoffering them. They also had a program discounting existing new cars, so they said.

I went to the local AUDI dealer with a bank check made out to me for what I would pay for a new one. WHen they didn't like my offer, I stood in the lobby and asked (IN A LOUD VOICE): Why don't you want to sell one of your killer cars?"> Never got an answer. Still don't have an AUDI, but am considering one of the diesel sports cars they are bringing into the US.
 
One of the reasons I decided not to buy a Kubota - :tsk:
In the 4th generation of BX, called the 60 series, the trans. problem has been fixed.. I just got off my BX2660 and LOVE it. I would definitely recommend them.
They do things for that others do not. For instance, the FEL hydraulic hook ups are NOT under the step. They are positioned behind and inside the FEL frame. Won't drag them and the lines are not hanging out there when my FEL is on. I know I would snag them on something!! The lines are also tucked in the FEL frame, so they won't get hung on something.
My steps are steel, not plastic. Sorry, just looks cheap to me and at the cost of these things......
The seperate forward/reverse pedels are a saftey thing. Any one out there on a JD hit the wrong pedel and go (surprise!) IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

These are my opinions...I will buy Kubota again.
 
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