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I really had a tough time the last few attempts to start the 2210. I'll spare you the same repeat pictures of the driveway drifting in again. Same as last time. I just got done digging it out again this morning. 5 times now or some such nonsense. I've resorted to putting the snow in the ditch next to the road in fromt of the place. We just cant seem to get a break. It warmed up today (+10 degrees) and she started, but it took some work.

When its below zero, the tractor really has a hard time getting started. Turn it over enough times and it starts to fire, but wont run. Eventually it will start, but not easily!

I use powerservice additive in the diesel. What I'm thinking is that I need a block heater and I'm also going to change over to synthetic oil. What say you on this subject?

Thanks,
 
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Sorry to hear you're still getting slammed with snow and miserable weather out there Kurt, but I think you're wise to invest in a block heater and switch to syn. oil. I know my little ole JD starts a whole lot easier in the winter time with the 10w30 syn. in it, and with those temps you're experiencing the block heater would seem a must have :fing32:

:goodl: out there and hope you get some sunshine coming along soon :)
 
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horseman1 said:
I really had a tough time the last few attempts to start the 2210. I'll spare you the same repeat pictures of the driveway drifting in again. Same as last time. I just got done digging it out again this morning. 5 times now or some such nonsense. I've resorted to putting the snow in the ditch next to the road in fromt of the place. We just cant seem to get a break. It warmed up today (+10 degrees) and she started, but it took some work.

When its below zero, the tractor really has a hard time getting started. Turn it over enough times and it starts to fire, but wont run. Eventually it will start, but not easily!

I use powerservice additive in the diesel. What I'm thinking is that I need a block heater and I'm also going to change over to synthetic oil. What say you on this subject?

Thanks,
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Kurt,

Are you using the cold weather starting proceedure? . . . the one Deere has forgotten to put in any of their CUT manuals? If not, what you need to do, is put the tractor in gear (or pull out the pto) and then turn the key to full start position and hold it there. You will see the gauge lights dim and hear a click. This the engagement of the glowplug. You can turn this on for 1-25 seconds and then put the selector in neutral or disengage the pto and your tractor should start immediately.
 
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I know that changing to a synthetic oil really helped the cold starting on my pick up.As Jim said those kind of temps it seems a block heater would be must have equipment.Good luck and hope you get a warm up! :fing32:
 
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Thanks folks (Jim, Pigsitter and JDFAN). I guess I'm just getting a little frustrated. I really count on this tractor. Thanks for the reminder about the cold starting procedure JDFAN, because I do forget sometimes. I didnt forget today though... It just doesnt work all that well when it sits all night at -goofy degrees cold. So, does Deere sell this block heater or should I get an aftermarket solution?

Thanks,
 
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Kurt, if it has the reg round freeze plugs,I'm sure NAPA has one that fits. If so, I'm sure it will be a lot cheaper than one from deere.
I just had a goround w/ a JD 4055 this AM. -19* F and the fuel was gelling or else the strainer on the fuel tank is plugged.We changed the fuel filter a couple of weeks ago at a little warmer temp. I'll deal w/ it on a warmer day,like sometime im March!!!
We're going to boogy outa here about thurs. and head to Texas for about 6 weeks.I can deal w/ the cold they're havin'. Got an E-mail from my sis yesterday and she said it got clear down to 35*,I E-mailed her back that it was -24* as I typed. She replied that maybe their forecast low of 17* wasn't so bad after all!!!
Mike
 
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Kurt,

I have a friend who installed the Deere heater on a 2210. It wasn't that expensive, but he did mention you need to drain the coolant, break out the plug, and then install the heater. He also mentioned getting the heater tightened enough to have it not leak either required an oddball tool or Herculean strength. If you're interested, I'll try to get him to post.
 
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horseman1 said:
Thanks folks (Jim, Pigsitter and JDFAN). I guess I'm just getting a little frustrated. I really count on this tractor. Thanks for the reminder about the cold starting procedure JDFAN, because I do forget sometimes. I didnt forget today though... It just doesnt work all that well when it sits all night at -goofy degrees cold. So, does Deere sell this block heater or should I get an aftermarket solution?

Thanks,
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I am thinking JD has a block heater that will work for this. Also use Rotella Syn 5W-40.
 
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Horseman1--what kind of 'stable' do you have for the JD? and I take it you have 110 curent?

All the above guy's suggestions are very good--

but we ain't got snow up to a giraffe's "Nads" either! :thSick: I feel for you!

I think the block heater would be your best option--that way--you are not wearing your starter system out....also keep on w/ the additive--it's just gelling up....
Keep us informed....
 
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The Deere heaters if they are available for that model, are very handy. I bought the one for the hydro and the engine antifreeze/coolant. I put them on a timer and have the timer turn them on a few hours before I plan to use the machine. It's nice to have free flowing hydro fluid, an easy starting engine and instant warm air blowing out of the heater!

That instant heater warm air is a great side effect of using the heater for the engine.
 
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Until you can find a suitable heater, an old method is to drain the oil and water and store them in a heated building and add back when the tractor is needed. On your tractor this method may be determined by how difficult it is to drain into a clean container. It may not be feasible at all but starters arent cheeeep either.
 
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IF your get it running AND it's still pokey it's probably fuel thickening (gelling) in the filters. This is where heating the entire engine compartment will help. In your case with severe cold like that, the tarp over the hood and a 100w light with reflector (clip light) will do wonders. It not only heats the block/coolant but also heats the fuel lines, pumps and filters (depending on location). Getting some heat on the filters is a REAL good idea. Use ether (starting fluid) as a last resort, it doesn't help with partially jelled fuel much.

Also you don't need to "leave the light on" all night in 20+ but about three hours or so and it should be warm enough with a cover keeping the heat in the engine compartment....

HTH,

Hydro wishing he had a diesel!:D
 
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Make sure you are putting in enough Powerserive (go full strength and then some) and it the anti-gelling mixture. Double check if your glow plugs are working correctly. Make sure you dont have water in the separation filter and check your air cleaner...
 
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I have a jd block heater in my 2210. I use synthetic 0-40 jd oil. If weather is extreme cold as it was on sunday ( - 42 ) I will cycle the glow plugs and crank the engine over for about 10 seconds then cycle the glow plugs once more and the engine never fails to start. Also I always use fuel conditioner.
 
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I got it going this morning after a bunch of shinnanigans and made a path for the family to get out (I think it was the sacred "turkey dance" I did that got her started).

So, everyone was able to go to town. I stayed home and made some stuff out in the shop. Maybe I'll post a picture in the welding forum of the project I did, but I digress....

Thanks for the advise! I think I'll use the 100 watt drop light and a tarp under the tractor until I can get the block heater from Deere. I dont have Hercules strength and I dont have many special tools. I do know how to cheat however and am *** pretty good at it :). Us old guys have our tricks you know :).

Thanks for all the help, I will be contacting old Bill at the Deere dealer to see what he can come up with.

For Gawd sake, -42? Where in the dickins are you!? Stay warm friend!

Many thanks!
 
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Blair,

Don't you even dare consider sending that kind of weather our way!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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