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Brocklanders27b

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So quick story: My in-laws new neighbor inherited an 8n left in a barn about 2 years ago. He asked me to help sell it for him just to get rid of it, and i know a running tractor is worth more than an as-is tractor. I've seen the tractor being used close to the time it was parked, so it is a recent runner.
Being an hour away from the tractor, I have very limited amounts of time to work on it, which isn't helping. The battery was completely drained and corroded (looks like it froze one winter) and i purchased a new 6v battery.

I have to admit I'm pretty new at the operation of this antique, but i have a working key, tried it in all positions, I opened up the fuel on the bottom of the sediment bowl, depressed the brake and clutch, opened up the hand throttle to 1/3rd and had the choke out about half. I did put in some new gas as well, as the bowl was empty.
The engine turned over great, but never once made an attempt to cough or start. The spark plug were pretty rusty on the heads and i wanted to use penetrating fluid to remove them so I could not confirm i had spark. I suspect it's a fuel problem, but tearing into a 1940's rear carb is not appealing to me given my familiarity with the tractor.

I can confirm gas to the carb as it has a small leak, and after too much cranking the neg. lead on the battery started to smoke a little, which told me it was time to call it a day.

I may take some new Autolite 437's or Champion H10's with me next time, but i'd like some ideas to take with me as well!

Thanks!


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My experience with these old N's. they will need the points cleaned/filed before they will run. Pull a plug wire off to test for fire. old plugs will still run ,just not real good. Fuel float may be hung up if it wasn't ran dry before storage. Carb may need rebuild. These old guys are very simle mechanicaly, don't be afraid to tackle any issues, they were made for farmers in the 1940's to work on and keep running. Those old farts didn't have internet or MTF to help out either. Good luck getting this 2N running.
 
my idea's the same as slip knot's. if the plugs are rusty, i'm sure the points are corroded. fix one thing at a time, once you get good spark to all cylinders, then work on the fuel problem. you might want to check for mouse nest, if they are around anything hot, it might get disasterous. if you need assistance, there are plenty of people on this forum willing to help, so don't be afraid to ask.
 
I have two 2ns that sat out for 5 years without running. After making sure the engines were not locked up I put in fresh gas, a good battery and pulled them in 3rd gear. They both started within 100 feet. They both blew a lot of blue smoke for about 2 or 3 minutes. After running a while they would start with the starter.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
Been crazy working on my other projects, but I finally made the hour drive out with a bit more knowledge in hand to take a whack at this thing.

I removed the old spark plugs and tested them, as well as new plugs while cranking the engine over. Best it could manage was 1 single spark right off the hop, then nothing. I decided to get to the points and see what they looked like....well that was fun :) I removed the hood with gas tank, and tested that fuel was getting from the tank to at least the carb. After some mucking around I found some dirt in the top of the sediment bowl. After getting that sorted I moved on the the really odd looking distributor cap. I popped the coil? off the top, then removed the dis. cap. It had lots of moisture and surface rust, so I dried/cleaned what I could and tried to get to the points to at least fun a file through there. I own 2 late sixties cars and am quite familiar with points in general, I could NOT find the points anywhere!! I think they were on the lower inside most area under the cap, but unless you have to remove the radiator to set the points, I'm missing something!

So after cleaning what I could, and getting some fresh gas to where I wanted, it seems like I'm still having an ignition problem.
 
Ready to kick yourself?

There're 2 bolts that hold that distributor onto the front of the engine. Remove those 2 bolts... the distributor comes off, in your hand. Set the points at your kitchen table (or whatever is handy)... reinstall the distributor... and you're back in business.
No need to remove the hood, radiator or anything else...
 
Tractor Supply, Rural King, Farm & Fleet... yes. NAPA maybe. Any others... my guess would be 'no'.

There are LOTS of online retailers that can provide it... Steiner Tractors is an advertiser here... they have the parts. So do Just8Ns and various others... and they're all over eBay.
 
napa parts:

Front Mount distributor...
Points:
NAPA #CS35
Standard Ignition Blue Streak #FD-6769X (Premium)
Condensor:
NAPA #FA200
Standard Ignition #FD-71
Rotor:
NAPA #FA300
Standard Ignition #FD-104
Distributor Cap:
NAPA #FA350
Standard Ignition #FD-126
 
SouNdguy, has did all the work for you. I prefer NAPA, they are always helpful in getting you the right parts. I also think it it an 2N not a 8N. Get the Serial Number and look up the year, you should know that anyway when you sell it. 2N's are a little cheaper than an 8N; at least around here. Good Luck
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Been a while again....Life seems to get in the way more often than not.

I did install new cap, rotor, points and condenser today and gapped it at approx. .0015" (forgot my feeler gauge, did the old match book trick). I'll be damned after a few cranks it started right up, then died never to be heard from again.....

I'm not sure what happened, but I could not get a spark out of it again. I removed the Distributor once again to see if something came loose, but everything was fine as far as I could tell. What am I missing?
 
Been a while again....Life seems to get in the way more often than not.

I did install new cap, rotor, points and condenser today and gapped it at approx. .0015" (forgot my feeler gauge, did the old match book trick). I'll be damned after a few cranks it started right up, then died never to be heard from again.....

I'm not sure what happened, but I could not get a spark out of it again. I removed the Distributor once again to see if something came loose, but everything was fine as far as I could tell. What am I missing?
On these old tractors the distributors are old and worn/sloppy, I had the same thing happen the last time I worked the points on my 9N, I will tell ya what I did. I took the distributor off and set the points again and made sure everything was secure and installed distributor X2, I did this two times and it started and has ran great since. I dont know what the problem was nor did I look again since the tractor runs great today.

Sometimes the answer is not clear but I believe if you keep at it you will win.:fing32:
 
I took one look at it and I can see it is a 2n as well, It is junk, You better give it to ME so You don't have to deal with all the problems.. LOL Actually it is not only easy to work on but ALOT of FUN...and Believe Me, I've had to have ALOT of Fun on MY 2n since I got it. Oh Yea, If you are not carefull, All that FUN can Cost ALOT of Cash!!! :)
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
Any other ideas I should try? I'm going back to try it again on Sunday and I'd love some more ideas. I don;t know if I had/have power to the coil. Obviously I did and once it started up, something happened and it will not spark.

I'd love some ideas of what to look for.
 
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