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I did forget to mention, if you have time, you can throw a clear coat of spray on the black pipe as it keeps rust down. IMO!

Locating the studs is always a good idea as baltimoreed suggested! Adds a lot of strength. Using longer screws won't hurt, just remember to pay attention to hidden electric lines in the studs. Today's stud finders with electric locators, are a great feature. IMO!

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Stud finders are great tools to have, but hanging cabinets that are various widths you eventually run into a place you need an anchor point where there is no stud. Same thing can happen with shelving. Installing blocking when you build the wall is the only way out.
 
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Yup. All the additional hardware I’m using a stud finder for. I added about 6-7 top anchors and will add 4-5 more angle brackets. I picked up additional angle brackets tonight but they’re too long so I will have to return them and try again tomorrow.

Going into just drywall would have been fine, had the shelf not been SO FAR overloaded.
 
Good stout pipe would have been a great solution for this. At the time, we didn’t have time to really do much else, and I like the uniformity of having the same shelving throughout the house.
Maybe I’ll leave the wire shelf but put pipe kind of up inside it to keep the uniform look. Shoot… probably wouldn’t even be able to tell what color the pipe is because it’s completely hidden by hundreds of plastic hangers.
They make metal wall brackets to attach the wire to the wall with. Don't buy the cheap plastic ones. Even anchored to studs the plastic one will break with heavy enough load.
 
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The key word should be a stud at 16" o.c.
Don't count on it.
Oh, they’re on 16” centers all right. Or at least darn close to that. I also spec’d out 2x6 studs for extra insulation and that little bit of additional sturdiness. It’s a decent quality custom build. Fairly high end plumbing fixtures, high efficiency furnace/WH, 9’ concrete walls down to the hard pan just below grade even in the garages, 4 stall finished garage, I think 30-40 year shingles, lots of rebar in the poured walls, concrete elevated porch and deck support structure, high quality flooring and windows (if prices and brand reputations are to be believed), etc. Definitely NOT a cheap spec house. Still has 1/2” drywall, chip board floors and roof like a spec house would, though… didn’t spring for real plywood or 5/8 drywall or plaster. We also cheaped out on appliances. They look nice, but the whole kitchen worth of appliances was maybe $3200. So far only problem with the appliances is the ice maker that’s selective about when it works. I couldn’t justify $10k in appliances that use the same “guts” as the cheap stuff just with more features or going all out with $20k worth of commercial grade stuff.
 
You know if you don't have enough stuff on your side, some of her stuff will migrate to your side eventually.
After 38 years we have our side and her side.

But I am sure glad I got married, although it was a little late, 37, I am glad I finally found all all the things I had been doing wrong my entire life.
I started out with half the walkin.. Strange how now its just about 1/4 of it, and frankly I need to go through, and toss a lot of the stuff.
 
Yeah, I know… first world problem, right?

About 5 years ago we built a new home. The builder didn’t include closet shelving in the bid, which he was very up front about. So to save a little money, we bought a metric crap ton of used shelving from someone remodeling a large home. It had a ton of shelving, supports, brackets, etc with it. My wife and I took a long day and hung it all how it made sense a couple days before moving in. I’m here to tell you- we hung A LOT of wire shelving that day - 4 bedroom closets, 2 bathroom closets, a few hallway closets, utility room, etc. We got pretty good at it, and it actually turned out REALLY well. And I resold the remaining stuff for a lot of what we paid for it because we had a lot left over that I never figured we’d use. And if we did need some, we’d just go buy some.

So now we have a lot of shelving in our bedroom walk in closet. And what happens when you have more room? That’s right! More stuff accumulates! Every now and then I accuse my wife of having too many clothes, which of course she vohemiatly denies and deflects back at me. Sunday night at about midnight, with a mildly cushy crash, her closet shelf seemed to take my side of the debate. Maybe that 15 lb weighted blanket was just too much for it?

Of course as the big burly protective husband I am, i got up to investigate the source of the noise. After discovering this, I just shook my head, closed the closet door, and went back to bed. She asks “so what was that?” I replied back “you don’t want to know.”

So now I’m straightening the piece that fell and re-mounting it. I put all the hardware back into the same holes to cover the damaged wall. I’m going to make sure the new additional hardware is screwed into studs this time rather than anchored into the drywall. I need to pick up some angle braces and might add an additional brace either to the ceiling or down to the floor. View attachment 2630930
Sometimes you almost hate being right. ;)
 
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Here’s the finished product. I added I think 5 angle braces and plastic U clamps rather than the “hooks” it did have. It looks kind of crappy with the old hardware back in the old holes and the new hardware doubled up, but her stuff will cover everything. Those plastic U clamps REALLY make it a lot more rigid. If I could distribute my weight uniformly across 1/2 the front edge, it feels sturdy enough to hold my 200 lb carcass. I bought a bunch of extra braces to do the other shelves in the other closets, but I don’t know if they’d ever fail as-is. I guess I’ll throw one or two up in the middle of each shelf just in case anyways.
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Here’s the finished product. I added I think 5 angle braces and plastic U clamps rather than the “hooks” it did have. It looks kind of crappy with the old hardware back in the old holes and the new hardware doubled up, but her stuff will cover everything. Those plastic U clamps REALLY make it a lot more rigid. If I could distribute my weight uniformly across 1/2 the front edge, it feels sturdy enough to hold my 200 lb carcass. I bought a bunch of extra braces to do the other shelves in the other closets, but I don’t know if they’d ever fail as-is. I guess I’ll throw one or two up in the middle of each shelf just in case anyways. View attachment 2631124
I would have held out for metal U brackets.
I have had to teplace broken plastic ones. They stretch over time and them break if over loaded. The metal ones don't do that.
 
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I would have held out for metal U brackets.
I have had to teplace broken plastic ones. They stretch over time and them break if over loaded. The metal ones don't do that.
I might see if I can scare up some metal ones. Good tip!
 
If your wife is like mine, the shelf better hold you and your buddy that is as big as you are.
My closet has 2" gas pipe and I had to add a chain from the ceiling to support the middle of the pipe, but my closet is 10 feet long.
And I am entitled to 16" of that 10 foot pipe to hang my pants.
I used to have 30" to hang my pants and shirts, but my shirts got kicked out 2 years ago.
Not sure what they did to get kicked out.
 
I've laughed and laughed and laughed some more at this thread. Seems we all have been robbed by our spouse's when it comes to closet space. My wife overloaded the shelving in our closet and it all fell on the floor. That was after she overloaded all the shelving in the spare bedroom closet and pulled that off the wall. I'd say altogether, there is close to 15 feet of shelving and I'm entitled to about 3 feet of of the rod to hang clothes and zero space on any of the shelves.
 
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But just think, if we never got married, we would have no idea of all the things we do wrong every day.
It is amazing I managed to live 38 years on my own before I got married, all the while doing everything wrong.
Fortunately, I did get married and learned the error of my ways before I died.
 
I used to have 30" to hang my pants and shirts, but my shirts got kicked out 2 years ago.
Not sure what they did to get kicked out.
I saved some old clothes just to preserve my closet space or they would have been gone years ago. :sneaky:
 
If your wife is like mine, the shelf better hold you and your buddy that is as big as you are.
My closet has 2" gas pipe and I had to add a chain from the ceiling to support the middle of the pipe, but my closet is 10 feet long.
And I am entitled to 16" of that 10 foot pipe to hang my pants.
I used to have 30" to hang my pants and shirts, but my shirts got kicked out 2 years ago.
Not sure what they did to get kicked out.
They were there and apparently took more space than your pants.
Could this be why the rich sleep in different rooms?
 
Yeah, I know… first world problem, right?

About 5 years ago we built a new home. The builder didn’t include closet shelving in the bid, which he was very up front about. So to save a little money, we bought a metric crap ton of used shelving from someone remodeling a large home. It had a ton of shelving, supports, brackets, etc with it. My wife and I took a long day and hung it all how it made sense a couple days before moving in. I’m here to tell you- we hung A LOT of wire shelving that day - 4 bedroom closets, 2 bathroom closets, a few hallway closets, utility room, etc. We got pretty good at it, and it actually turned out REALLY well. And I resold the remaining stuff for a lot of what we paid for it because we had a lot left over that I never figured we’d use. And if we did need some, I figured we’d just go buy what we needed.
Edit: after seeing the prices of this shelving during this recent adventure, I regret selling all of what we had.

So now we have a lot of shelving in our bedroom walk in closet. And what happens when you have more room? That’s right! More stuff accumulates! Every now and then I accuse my wife of having too many clothes, which of course she vohemiatly denies and deflects back at me. Sunday night at about midnight, with a mildly cushy crash, her closet shelf seemed to take my side of the debate. Maybe that 15 lb weighted blanket was just too much for it?

Of course as the big burly protective husband I am, i got up to investigate the source of the noise. After discovering this, I just shook my head, closed the closet door, and went back to bed. She asks “so what was that?” I replied back “you don’t want to know.”

So now I’m straightening the piece that fell and re-mounting it. I put all the hardware back into the same holes to cover the damaged wall. I’m going to make sure the new additional hardware is screwed into studs this time rather than anchored into the drywall. I need to pick up some angle braces and might add an additional brace either to the ceiling or down to the floor. View attachment 2630930
I had nothing on the shelf and very few clothes hanging when my plastic wall clips broke. The plastic got old and just broke from age. It shouldn't of happened. Defective bracket plastic. I recommend going to metal brackets of the same size. I was going to contact the manufacturer but never got around to it. I bought the shelving new.
 
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