Change for model year 2022 XT1

JoesJunkGarage · Oct 13, 2021

The 2022 model year XT1 Cub Cadet’s are out. Looks like they have the new style front ends and black wheels!

Do you like the new style change or the prior year’s color scheme with the white wheels? Let me know your thoughts!

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Sergeant · Oct 13, 2021

There Just Matching the 2021 XT2 color scheme figured they would! Personally never have liked any of the XT Enduro series color schemes. I Just have gotten around to changing my hood On My XT3 to White from the After 2011 2000 series tractor Probably finally do that over this up coming winter . But I bet Stanley loves the color scheme. Though they actually had nothing to do with it's choice.

factoryguy · Oct 22, 2021

Pictures... can you post some pics with the new hood?

country fried · Oct 14, 2021

I expected the trickle down.
Looks good to me.

12oreo · Oct 16, 2021

I don't like it. Not like past designs that made mowers look like they were made for work, not to scare the neighbor's kids. I am not crazy about the look of my XT3 but it does the job.

PA318Guy · Oct 16, 2021

Mower and Halloween decoration!!

Fcarp · Oct 16, 2021

UGLY.

Why does everything have to have the "Transformer" look now?

Steve Urquell · Oct 16, 2021

I'd bet the age of new LT and GT buyers is towards the younger and first time buyer side. MTD (now Stanley) is trying to grab the eye of the younger generation.

It's flashy for sure but I think the looks needed a shake up. I had no problem with the XT1/2's first generation look. I do feel like the LT1018 below was an all time low for Cub looks and probably a reason for the yellow hood 1st gen XT 1&2.

I do not like the new rounded hoods when they are beige. I think the new XT hood is bold enough to be beige and look good. Reminds me of a 1200.

Mike514 · Oct 16, 2021

Around here in Western NY, it seems like every other pick up truck is the Ram 1500 with gray body and black wheels and trim (I also never see Rams ever around here used to "work" or even using the bed) and this seems to be geared toward that group of homeowners. This is the new thing for young people and Cub is hopping aboard. I think they look better in person than pictures, but still looks ugly. I think the overall body design of the past few years is an improvement over early 2000 Cubs.

country fried · Oct 17, 2021

Let's face it guys, we can't be the one's buying new tractors forever. They have to appeal to the next generation, and most people don't want to buy something new that looks old. Everyone that wants to sell their products has to keep up with the trends.

Steve Urquell · Oct 17, 2021

In my case I didn't have any GT background or history. Family never had a riding mower at all. I started looking for a GT to handle my property, found out about the XT3 and bought one. Then started geeking out on Cub Cadet and bought 2 older GTs.

I see this excitement on the Cub XT Facebook page when a new buyer gets his first GT. It is the future of the hobby spurred by the flashy looks catching the first time buyer's eye.

RedOctobyr · Oct 17, 2021

And I'm sure the cycle has repeated over time

When, I dunno, things went from cast-iron engines, to just iron-sleeved cylinders in aluminum. When they changed from gears to hydrostatic transmissions. When the engines changed from flatheads to OHV. When 2-range transmissions went away. When everything gradually got lighter and thinner.

Admittedly, some of those I am bummed about (not having a high/low range, and frames not being as tough as they used to be). But most of it is inevitable. Things will never be as good as the "good old days". Bluetooth on a tractor may seem unnecessary to me. But people probably said the same of adjustable seats or whatever, too.

I guess all we can do is vote with our wallets. To modify an expression, "buy the change you want to see in the world"

Sergeant · Oct 18, 2021

RedOctobyr said:
And I'm sure the cycle has repeated over time When, I dunno, things went from cast-iron engines, to just iron-sleeved cylinders in aluminum. When they changed from gears to hydrostatic transmissions. When the engines changed from flatheads to OHV. When 2-range transmissions went away. When everything gradually got lighter and thinner.

Admittedly, some of those I am bummed about (not having a high/low range, and frames not being as tough as they used to be). But most of it is inevitable. Things will never be as good as the "good old days". Bluetooth on a tractor may seem unnecessary to me. But people probably said the same of adjustable seats or whatever, too.

I guess all we can do is vote with our wallets. To modify an expression, "buy the change you want to see in the world"

No IH Cub Cadet Garden tractor came with a 2 range Transmission You could add a Creeper Gear which my 106 has and it gives you a two range . The Deere 420 & 430 were the only Deere Garden Tractors to have a 2 Range. Deere used a Variator for gear tractors so each gear had a slower or Faster speed without shifting a range. so No Need for a 2 speed Trans on the 110RF thru 216

In the Hydrostatic Drive the Transmission evolved The 2 range was a stop gap for Sundstrand and many manufacturers just kept using that Sundstrand design But the late 70's the Hydrostatic transmission had evolved to the Point It could be Operated without the need for a 2nd range for slower speeds But most didn't start Instituting it until the 1990's Deere once they switched to Tuff-Torq and started using a pedal control there really was no need for the 2 speed range as You could creep along with the foot Pedal design especially once cruise control was added. There is just was no a need for the 2 speed range anymore in the Hydrostatic transmissions in the Lawn & Garden tractor market. Ranges are needed more in the Hydrostatic driven in the Sub Compact or above as they help save fuel. But with some of the new features out there for the Sub & Compact tractor those really will not be needed much in the future either

As far as the frames go, That depends On the manufacturer. Cub , Deere and Simplicity still use very strong gauge tractor frame's That are even thicker gauge of steel then what they used in the past. The only exception being the Deere X700 series They did Take away some frame reinforcement to drop the weight of that tractor But the Gauge thickness of the frame is still the same as what was used from 1992 thru 2001 & 2002 till 2012. But they took out the extra reinforcement in key areas that was used on top of they already thick gauge frame. Right now Husqvarna is about the Only Manufacturer to go to a very thin and stamped frame design. But there are Only 4 Manufacturers left in the US that even produce Garden tractors

RedOctobyr · Oct 20, 2021

I guess I was trying to speak more generically, about the sorts of changes that tractors probably saw as time went on. Rather than changes specifically to Cubs. But it's interesting to hear about what they have done on different machines.

I guess the 2-range gearboxes just make my ears perk up. A few times this season I ran out of "oomph", and just got transmission noise, but it couldn't pull hard enough, and didn't spin the ATV tires. And I hoped it would have spun the tires. I've seen some odd behavior with my bypass valve failing to close properly the last time I used it, so perhaps there's something that I need to investigate this winter.

But still, it seemed like it would be nice to move a lever, and maybe double your axle torque. When I was trying to move my loaded utility trailer, and the wheels had sunk into the dirt a bit, I didn't care about top-end speed. I just needed torque, but that was one case where I came up short, and couldn't move the load. So being able to gear down the transmission, if needed, sounds like a nice feature to me. I want to be traction-limited, not torue-limited

It's sad that there are only 4 GT companies these days. But I suppose I should be glad we still have that. I don't need, and can't justify, a SCUT. But I want more than an LT. I'm glad there are still choices, even if it's fewer choices.

oefveteran · Oct 20, 2021

I just liked that there was a visible distinction between the XT1 and XT2, wish that had not changed.

zico21 · Oct 25, 2021

I just bought a 2022 XT1 LT42 when my 18 year old John Deere L110 died. My local Cub Cadet dealer had just received two 2022‘s and were the only mowers I could find in my area. I had stopped by on my way to our local John Deere dealer and when I returned to the Cub Cadet dealer an hour later they had already sold one of the two new 22’s.
Some changes I believe are different from the 2021’s beside the cosmetic changes previously noted, are a larger engine (Koehler 5400 Series, 541cc, 19.5 hp), “S” type blades rather than “star” type blades and anti-scalping wheels only on the front of the deck.

Sergeant · Oct 25, 2021

Well It actually a bit of a downgrade Transmission wise Your going from a K46 in the L110 to a TL-200(re-name of T40J Transmission) in the XT1 LT42. Looks Like You Can't get a K46 Until You go with a XT1 LT50

zico21 · Oct 26, 2021

Thanks for the excellent and quick reply! You surmised correctly, I just use it to mow our grass (and leaves in the fall), a bit under an acre. My L110 didn’t literally stop working, the deck was getting very rusty (I had “rebuilt” it about seven years ago with new pulleys and spindles and some quick sanding and painting, it had about 500 hours on it when I got my new one last week.
I planned to get a new mower next spring, but then one of the anti-scalp wheel brackets broke off a week or so ago. In doing some quick research I saw basic lawn tractors were very difficult to find at the moment and when I saw one at our Cub Cadet dealer I figured I get it so I wouldn’t have to take a chance in the spring.
Thanks again for your information. I’m enjoying this forum.

RedOctobyr · Oct 26, 2021

Enjoy your new machine! It's a great forum, with a lot of helpful, knowledgeable members.

Though we ARE kinda good at helping people spend their money!

Sergeant · Oct 26, 2021

RedOctobyr said:
Enjoy your new machine! It's a great forum, with a lot of helpful, knowledgeable members.

Though we ARE kinda good at helping people spend their money!

zico21
In 2002 I had 3 Garden tractors It's Now 2021
I have
6 Cub Cadet Garden tractor
5 John Deere Garden tractors
1 Ingersoll Garden tractor one of the starting Garden tractors in 2002
1 Wheel horse Garden tractor
1 White Garden tractor one of the starting Garden tractors in 2002
1 John Deere Compact tractor
1 John Deere Sabre Lawn Tractor
1 Cub Cadet Rear engine rider
1 Simplicity Rear engine rider
Just Put a down Payment on a Cub Cadet Zero turn today
Had a John Deere 425 one of the starting Garden tractors in 2002 traded for JD X485 in 2003. JD X485 replaced with a JD X748 in 2014

So 19 riding Machines or should I say 16 collected since 2002 see what this forum has done to me and there are Many more Members who have a Lot more then me . Now Keep In Mind 3 were Given to me and The Sabre was Inherited .

Probably what doesn't Help I have a Army pension to spend with! My House is Paid off! All My Kids are through college & out of the House and I still work full time(but from Home) BTW all 3 Kids our Garden tractor collectors like me My Daughter collects Massey Ferguson & Murray Her twin Brother Collects Gilson and There Younger Brother Collects Roper and Deere and He is a John Deere design engineer. Though technically My Cub Cadet XT3 GSX is the wife's tractor .and she was a Massey Ferguson Tractor Mechanic in Canada Before I knew her. She's a Nurse now

Oh and I grew Up next door to the The IH Cub Cadets & IH ROPS test engineer so I got to see many Cub Cadets before they even saw production

I was mostly a John Deere man all my life Until I found tractor forums in 2002 Prior to the Deere 425 I had Bought a JD 240 Garden tractor In 1988 My 1st new Tractor. I had owned a Used JD 130 Lawn tractor before that and a used JD R70 rear engine rider before that. But usually only owned 1 tractor at a time Until 1992

So this forum breeds Tractor addition .So don't be surprised if You get the Bug.

zico21 · Nov 10, 2021

An update on my new mower (2022 XT1 LT42). After using it for the first time for about an hour I turned it off to clean it with my leaf blower, it wouldn’t start (I had turned it off/on briefly several times while mowing). I could hear the solenoid/starter make a very brief noise noise but the engine didn’t turn over at all. I called the dealer and they quickly came and brought it to their shop. After a couple of weeks of them dealing with staff shortages they returned it today. They said they had experienced the same issue in their shop very intermittently, and tried replacing the starter, solenoid, battery and had examined the engine. Apparently, the issue only occurred when the engine stopped at the peak compression point in its cycle. In the end, Cub Cadet tech support told them that they had heard of other cases of this with the new engine used in the 2022 XT1 LT42.

It was suggested that “this was normal” and that one just needed to try starting it a second time and it should start. I certainly had tried doing this when the issue first occurred with no success. They returned the mower to me today so I could get my lawn mowed and leaves bagged and told me to call them right away if I had any issues. The mower worked great and I stopped and started it several times. I am very pleased with the performance of the mower and the bagging system worked better than what I had on my old John Deere. I will add that our local dealer has an excellent reputation in our area and the personnel were understanding and professional and as a retired technical manager in a different field, I was understanding and patient. Hopefully, all is well, but only time will tell.

12oreo · Nov 10, 2021

Having a good dealer makes all the difference.

oefveteran · Nov 10, 2021

Seriously, dealer experience can do more to shape brand image than anything else.

RedOctobyr · Nov 10, 2021

zico, glad to hear that it's behaving better. And you still have plenty of warranty time, to keep an eye on it.

If it happened again, 2 things you could try:

remove the spark plug(s), and see if it will spin using the key. This eliminates compression, but does not move anything else.
if that doesn't help, or as a tools-free test, manually turn the engine's flywheel screen, by maybe half a turn or so. Just to move it to a different point in the compression stroke. Then see if it will spin using the key.

zico21 · Nov 29, 2021

An update…I used the mower five times since it’s return to me and the problem continues. I would say I had trouble starting about ten times, but it would start immediately if I tried to start it a second time, except for the last time. in this case, it wouldn’t start after about four tries. I removed the guard over the fan and used a socket to rotate the fan/shaft slightly and then it started immediately on the next try.

The dealer is going to pick it up as I’m done using it for the season. I love everything about the new mower (it was much better at “collecting” leaves with the bagger system than my old John Deere) except for the starting issue, of course. Unfortunately, it will be months before I’ll know if has been repaired once it’s returned to me, but I’ll eventually post an update here.

Steve Urquell · Nov 29, 2021

Sorry to hear it Zico.

PaleAleKing · Nov 30, 2021

Hi Zico, hope they sort it out quickly! I just bought a 2022 LT1, except mine is the 46" version. What engine is in yours? I have the Kohler V-twin 23HP. I've probably started mine a dozen times now and it seems OK. I'll keep an eye out for this issue.

So, mine started squeaking while going over rough terrain and I wasn't having it! Less than 4 hours and it's squeaking! Turns out the brake linkage where the pedal connects needed a little lube.

zico21 · Nov 30, 2021

My engine is the 19 hp Kohler 5400 Series KS595 single. It is one of the changes from the 2021 model.

zico21 · Apr 9, 2022

I stopped at my local dealer to see if they had any updates on my 2022 XT1 LT42 that had been in the shop since the end of November. (I understood that they might not get to it until they were done with all of their winter related business, so I wasn’t concerned) Good news! After going through all of the troubleshooting steps advised by Tech support (many of which they had done previously, months ago), Cub Cadet has a new engine on its way to my dealer.

I want to be clear that my local dealer has been professional and concerned about my issue with my new mower through out this process. Since I could still use my mower until our grass mowing season ended in November my only concern was that the problem was resolved for the coming mowing season. And since it was somewhat intermittent in nature, I won’t really know if the problem is resolved until I start using it again in the next few weeks. But for now, I have high hopes that everything will be good.

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