Hello,
some one knows where to get a 3 cylinder rebuild engine?
Thanks,
Pablo.
some one knows where to get a 3 cylinder rebuild engine?
Thanks,
Pablo.
Ford 4500 rebuild engine
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Hi and welcome to MTF.
Are you looking to get an engine that you already have rebuilt? Or are you looking to purchase an already rebuilt engine? Also, where are you located?
Are you looking to get an engine that you already have rebuilt? Or are you looking to purchase an already rebuilt engine? Also, where are you located?
I do not know if there are any remains left of Ebro's (Motor Iberica) Ford business? Maybe there still are some workshops that sells/rebuilds these engines?
You will have best chanses to find a supplier in the UK.
Ford reconditioned 3 cylinder tractor and agricultural engines
JCB 444 new engines and parts for sale. Perkins engines and genuine Perkins parts, 4.236, AD3.152, Perkins Phaser engines. Ford reman engines and tractor parts.
You need to send them your engine.
There are also short engines and blocks (I do not know if they are new or rebuilt):
Short Motor BSD333 suitable for Ford & Fordson
3 Cylinder Ford BSD333 Engine - 4.4 Bore. 9/16" Cylinder Head StudsAny Early Models With 1/2" Cylinder Stud Holes Will Require 9939 - Cylinder Head Stud Kit.To Fit Ford 2000, 3000, 2600, 3600, 4100, 2610, 2810, 2910, 4110, 3930 Models Will Require: 9939 - Cylinder Head Stud Kit. 9941 -...
Engine Block suitable for Ford & Fordson
3 Cylinder Ford BSD333 Engine - 4.4 Bore. 9/16" Cylinder Head Studs. Any early models with 1/2" Cylinder Stud Holes will require Cylinder Head Stud Kit (Agriline Part No. 9939). Ford 2000, 3000, 2600, 3600, 4100, 2610, 2810, 2910, 4110, 3930 models will require: Agriline Part No. 9939...
These are new:
motor-aligerado-ford-3-cilindros-bsd333 - KRAMP
Descubra motor-aligerado-ford-3-cilindros-bsd333 en KRAMP. Encontrará el mayor surtido de motor-aligerado-ford-3-cilindros-bsd333 online. Es así de sencillo.
www.kramp.com
Short Motor (BSD333) - Ford
To suit BSD333 Ford 4000, 4600, 4610, 4130, 4330, 4630 tractors as well as BSD326, BSD329, BSD330 & BSD332 - 2000, 3000, 2600, 3600, 3900, 4100, 2310, 2610, 2810, 2910, 4110, 3230, 3430, 3930 tractors!
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Hello again, dou you know Roberts Engines ROBERTS ENGINES Wexford Online Shop - DoneDeal ?
No, I have not, but it looks promising. Ireland means no customs, so it may be a better option.
If you choose a service where you have to send your engine in exchange, check with the shop what damages they will accept. If you, for instance, have a bad porosity that can not be fixed, they may not accept your engine and you lose your deposit.
Please, come back with your results on this engine hunt.
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That must be a rebuilt short block, not a new one. They do not make them new any longer as far as I am aware.
That looks about the same as they are going for here in the USA. They are listed for between $2400.00 and $3200.00 US$ with a $1000.00 core charge, so once you return the old block you get $1000.00 back.
That looks about the same as they are going for here in the USA. They are listed for between $2400.00 and $3200.00 US$ with a $1000.00 core charge, so once you return the old block you get $1000.00 back.
I think that is a good option, but there will be a need for extra parts (See "Accesorios" on the Kramp site), and they do not come cheap. On the other hand, you will not have the costs and trouble that comes with sending your old engine.
Depending on the damages, rebuilding the old engine can also be pricey.
The cylinder head bolt threads in these new blocks are 9/16" - 12 UNC (older engines 1/2" - 13 UNC) in order to fit later head bolts.
The timing cover bolt (stud) kit is needed because the new blocks are threaded 3/8" -16 UNC (older engines 5/16"- 18 UNC), in order to fit cover bolts for later blocks.
I wonder if it is possible to drill the timing cover to fit 3/8" threaded bolts? That way you do not need that kit, only new bolts.
Same thing for the head, it is only a qestion of largening the holes radius by 1/32" inch (~ 0.8 mm).
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I looked for bolts. If you find 9/16" bolts, with suitable lengths, I do not think they are cheaper than the stud kit.
Most likely, you better go for that kit.
But the timing cover kit should be avoidable, drill the holes and get some 8.8 (Grade 5) 3/8" - 16 UNC bolts instead.
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I do not know what prices Kramp will charge for the bolt/stud "threads adapters" but after a quick search, this seller has prices that, at least, will not throw you off the chair:
Cylinder Head Bolt Kit - Ford
To suit later Ford 3 cylinder engine tractors. Not suitable for early engines
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Wow, that is news. A company is making replacement engines for Ford 3 cylinder tractors. I wonder if they are planning to export them to the US?
They have been doing it for 5+ years...
Several detailers have the engines out of stock. I do not know if it is because Corona, Brexit, production stopped or the demand is high. This would have been perfect for Pablo, since it includes the required kits:
Ford 3 Cylinder Short Engine, Motor inc Delivery
Description Engine is brand new not reconditioned made by Vapormatic and comes with Full Manufactures Warranty Part number VPB8024 Ford 3 cylinder
Only Vapormatic can tell what markets they plan to work in. European detailers often sell worldwide, but that means a transatlantic shipping cost for each customer. I suppose that exporting engines to the US in larger scale would call for a Vapormatic detailer in the US, and such things often comes with contracts binding the detailer to sell more products from the manufacturer. I do not know.
Then there is the (to me) mysterious Sparex engine:
Short Engine: BSD333
Cylinder: 3 Cyl.<br>Seal: Lip Seal<br>(3.3L Engine. Earlier Engines with 1/2'' UNC Cylinder Head Bolts will require Bolt Kit S.163537 for installation)
export.sparex.com
Same secrets here:
Short Motor BSD333 suitable for Ford & Fordson
3 Cylinder Ford BSD333 Engine - 4.4 Bore. 9/16" Cylinder Head StudsAny Early Models With 1/2" Cylinder Stud Holes Will Require 9939 - Cylinder Head Stud Kit.To Fit Ford 2000, 3000, 2600, 3600, 4100, 2610, 2810, 2910, 4110, 3930 Models Will Require: 9939 - Cylinder Head Stud Kit. 9941 -...
Just discovered that Vapormatic has a Mexican branch, and thought that would be an opening to US customers. But no, the engines are only available from UK, Ireland and New Zealand:
www.vapormatic.mx
Tractor parts | Vapormatic: Tractor and Agricultural Parts
Tractor parts | Vapormatic: Tractor and Agricultural Parts
www.vapormatic.mx
It will fit a 4500, or do you mean fit inside the front end loader frame when you are assemblying it? If the old one gets out, the new one will go in.
To avoid any unpleasant surprises, make sure what model you have. If you have the tractor's model code, serial number, assembly date code and the engine's serial number, you can verify that you will get the proper replacement. Is that already sorted? Do not rely on the sticker, you need the stamped numbers.
And, please, if you have the time and opportunity, some pictures.
To avoid any unpleasant surprises, make sure what model you have. If you have the tractor's model code, serial number, assembly date code and the engine's serial number, you can verify that you will get the proper replacement. Is that already sorted? Do not rely on the sticker, you need the stamped numbers.
And, please, if you have the time and opportunity, some pictures.
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One week ago i bought it. It not start.... and engine noise when trying to start (clack clack)
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last weekend i take out the crankshaft. It was a problem with this biela
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Engine photos:
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I have another old toys too....;-)
Masse Ferguson 50HX (restored 2 years ago)
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Massey Ferguson 65
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Barreiros R500B
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Pegaso 3055 Militar 6x6
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Jeep Comando
last weekend i take out the crankshaft. It was a problem with this biela
Engine photos:
I have another old toys too....;-)
Masse Ferguson 50HX (restored 2 years ago)
Massey Ferguson 65
Barreiros R500B
Pegaso 3055 Militar 6x6
Jeep Comando
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Yes, your pictures show that it is a 4500 and that Vapormatic short engine will definitely fit correctly.
Nice collection of machines.
Nice collection of machines.
It looks like the block is cracked and someone tried to fix it with putty...
The engine serial number seems to start with 5D. If it is an original 4000 engine, it should start with a P or a D. It really does not matter, it is clear that the new engine is the right one. The old one could be a replacement, and those can have all sorts of numbers on them.
Thank you for the pictures. I guess it sounds weird to you, but I have not heard of Barreiros before, sturdy looking tractor. I found a lot of interesting reading about the Chrysler/Dodge connection and the Spanish Darts.
The Jeep was also made in Spain, if I understand things right? Ebro was involved in these. Ebro also built Ford and MF tractors, was the MF65 built in Spain as well?
You learn everyday, thanks.
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The engine serial number seems to start with 5D. If it is an original 4000 engine, it should start with a P or a D. It really does not matter, it is clear that the new engine is the right one. The old one could be a replacement, and those can have all sorts of numbers on them.
Thank you for the pictures. I guess it sounds weird to you, but I have not heard of Barreiros before, sturdy looking tractor. I found a lot of interesting reading about the Chrysler/Dodge connection and the Spanish Darts.
The Jeep was also made in Spain, if I understand things right? Ebro was involved in these. Ebro also built Ford and MF tractors, was the MF65 built in Spain as well?
You learn everyday, thanks.
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