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Years ago,they used to have "proving grounds" test tracks,that new cars were torture tested on many thousands of miles,to see which parts would not be up to the durability standards street driving put upon them,before we ever got to hear or see these newly designed vehicles--now WE are the "test pilots",and they let us find out how poorly some things were designed and make..
 
Years ago,they used to have "proving grounds" test tracks,that new cars were torture tested on many thousands of miles,to see which parts would not be up to the durability standards street driving put upon them,before we ever got to hear or see these newly designed vehicles--now WE are the "test pilots",and they let us find out how poorly some things were designed and make..
They still do this.

I saw many a prototype burn on Union Pass on Rt.68 in AZ.

Yuma testing grounds (ford, Harley, Toyota and other as-contracted) is still functioning, albiet with hugely increased security. They pushed the perimeter fence out another 1.5 miles a few years back.
 
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All good points guys! I know they run quite a few prototypes around here. We see a Michigan plated camp small SUV all the time. The car companies run them out of Mahwah NJ. Think a lot of things get passed through due to cost. Hoping it will live life of warranty!


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Remember the Ford recall for the cruise control circuit that was causing fires? It mainly affected trucks (pickups, box trucks, RVs). The circuit was powered even when the trucks were off and parked. There was a problem where brake fluid came into contact with electricity, causing vehicles and anything nearby (garage/home) to burn.

The recall didn't redesign anything to actually correct the cause, it was a fusible link or something like that to alleviate the symptom.

Mike
 
Yup, I had a Ranger that fell in the recall range but never got a notice. I just figured out what the fix was and did that.. Ford has had some pretty big recall's over the years, the first notable recall that I know of is the faliure to hold in park recall which affected all Fords with Automatics from 1966-1980.. The 'fix' was a mailed to owner sticker saying to make sure the vehicle was placed in park with E brake locked before leaving. I had a '67 Falcon that still had the sticker
 
Wow, that's insane!!!

I'm amazed that I own Fords at all after the 80s. We had a few that were just horrible, breaking down constantly. I got stranded once, late at night, on a quiet interstate, in January. Not cool.

I eventually needed an SUV, and bought a 1993 Explorer on the advice of a few friends. They definitely got better over the years, but still have weaknesses.

Likewise, I swore off of GMs after owning a couple that used to eat alternators. Haven't been brave enough to go back...

Mike
 
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Pretty much anything manmade will have issues, all cars do to a degree. If things were different I might look at a new Honda Accord manual, heard they aren't selling well due to small SUV demand.
 
My parents had a 1993 Dodge Caravan, a few years after they bought it new,recall notices started arriving in the mail box..

They had the van only a week or so,when it refused to crank over one morning..

Had it towed to the dealer,they said "Oh,the Bosch starters on these Mitsubishi engines were recalled"--turned out it had a "dead spot" in the armature!..they replaced it free of charge..

One recall was for the "rear hatch release"...seems the geniuses that designed the dash,decided putting the rear hatch release button right next to the rear window de-fogger switch,was a good idea..until several people pushed the wrong button,and had anything in the rear of the van ranging from kids to cargo,be liable to tumble out onto the road when the hatch opened!..:eek:.

The "fix" was to bring it back to the dealer,and they just "disabled" the switch,by un-plugging the release solenoid!..they did this without unscrewing the plastic trim panels on the hatch too,looked to me like they used a pry bar to pry up on the plastic until it cracked and pulled the screw heads thru the plastic!..my dad was livid when he saw that,but they refused to replace the panels,saying "they get brittle with age and often crack"..(3 years old ?..)..

After that,the rear window wiper never worked again either--I found a blown fuse,replaced it,and it blew again instantly when I turned it on..we never used it anyways,but still..it DID work before!..

My parents had bought at least 4 new vehicles from that dealership too,and swore they would never buy anything from them again--or take the van back for any more recall repairs..the dealer also tried to "keep" the title to one car they purchased new too,they had some bank in CA "holding" it!--they had to threaten them with a lawyer to get the title,they had paid for the car in full the day they bought it too..
 
Dealers are a whole other set of problems...

Mike
 
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