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Lost and Found Dept - Pin on 445?

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I was pulling our mower deck off the JD 445 (2 wheel steering) and found a pin underneath -- about midships of the tractor. It is about 2" long, smooth except some ribs right below the head. I am not sure where it came from: deck or tractor.

Can any one help me out with clues about where it belongs?
 

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#4 ·
You may be on to something! I think some friends might have green envy.

But seriously, that got me thinking. It is quite possible, since I am working on the tractor in my garage that is shared with our vehicles, I might have missed seeing it when I pulled out the car and brought in the JD. That means it could either be from a 95 Winstar or a 85 Toyota. I don't feel any better thinking that it might be from one of those sources!

The good news is that I mowed and I didn't seem to have any problems!

Thanks. Carl
 
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I appreciate the concern -- it got me thinking, so I stopped by our auto mechanic and we had a talk. He was pretty sure it didn't come from our vehicles - especially the braking system. The pin didn't have the correct retention system.

I am wondering if I have a related symtom that I would like to bounce off the experts.
When I slowly deprease the forward pedal on my 445, it starts with sort of a jerk rather than a smooth transition from stationary to moving. This doesn't occur using the reverse pedal. I can't tell if this is new or not since I just got the tractor and mowed with it for the first time last weekend. It is smooth if you are not at full throttle, but you need to mow full out.

This may be a long shot, but think there might be a linkage issue where the pin came from? Thanks!

Carl
 
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OR, you could remove your deck and lay underneath why someone operates the pedals, engine off please. Nothing very complicated about the linkage, it just runs to the back and pushes or pulls on a lever on the right side of the transaxle. There's only one rod that goes all the way back, so the most likely problem would be below the pedals where they convert the movement to the front/back. I just went out and looked at mine and I'd say 99.9 percent sure that pin isn't from there. If you crawl under, you have to get way under as there is a part of it on the inside of the frame. While you're there, notice the black box above your head with all the hydralic lines running in and out of it. Just hope it never starts to leak, it's a pain to work on.
 
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I hate to mention this PuttPutt, but an earlier post has kept me thinking... Many years ago when VW Beetles were becoming the rage, one of the guys in the foundry I worked in bought one. He had everybody come out lunchtime and look at it. Most of the comments were crude japes at the "different" little car and he took plenty of verbal ribbing.

As the demonstration was going on with the hood open in back and the trunk open in front and the owner seated inside, someone placed a well worn bent split ring on the air plenum and called owner back to show it to him... Long story short, Beetle got towed home as owner didn't want to start it not knowing where the ring came from...

Any of your friends ever worked in a foundry? ROF
 
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HydroHarold said:
I hate to mention this PuttPutt, but an earlier post has kept me thinking... Many years ago when VW Beetles were becoming the rage, one of the guys in the foundry I worked in bought one. He had everybody come out lunchtime and look at it. Most of the comments were crude japes at the "different" little car and he took plenty of verbal ribbing.

As the demonstration was going on with the hood open in back and the trunk open in front and the owner seated inside, someone placed a well worn bent split ring on the air plenum and called owner back to show it to him... Long story short, Beetle got towed home as owner didn't want to start it not knowing where the ring came from...

Any of your friends ever worked in a foundry? ROF
Good one Hydro! ROF BTW, what foundry did you work at? I used to own several.
 
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Z & H, General Casting in Peekskill. Best thing about that job I got to work with the famous Doc Edgerton from MIT for a week on a Sidewinder missle sight casting we were having trouble with. They also made stuff for IBM, Rotron and ATT to name a few... Stories? There were a million of them there! :D:DROF...

Say, you weren't the boss who caught me on my m'cycle when I had the broken foot....? :(
 
#14 ·
Well, I laid under the tractor for quite a while pulling and pushing linkages. I also paged through the parts manual best I could. I am beginning to think that the bolt maybe was a plant!

I guess this will be chalked up to an unsolved mystery. Maybe a TV show will follow. It is still a bit troubling why I get a jerk on the start, but I probably should start that as a seperate post.

I thank everyone for their consideration and thoughts. This is a great place to exchange ideas. I have spent quite a bit of time looking over the old posts. Thanks again.

Carl
 
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HydroHarold said:
Z & H, General Casting in Peekskill. Best thing about that job I got to work with the famous Doc Edgerton from MIT for a week on a Sidewinder missle sight casting we were having trouble with. They also made stuff for IBM, Rotron and ATT to name a few... Stories? There were a million of them there! :D:DROF...

Say, you weren't the boss who caught me on my m'cycle when I had the broken foot....? :(
Hydro,

It's a small world. I know all those accounts. But, no, I wasn't the one who caught you on the motorcycle! :fing20:
 
#16 ·
Extra / left-over bolts are the norm....

every time I go to fix a part a part of the car... like the motor... or suspension.... I always end up with extra bolts & screws.... One time I ended up with an extra head-bolt! How the heck do you end up with an extra head-bolt!!!!.... well I did.... it's still sitting in my tool tray...... car still runs fine after 100,000km since the work was done.....