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How many hours are too many

14K views 20 replies 18 participants last post by  rags_the_dog  
#1 ·
I am looking at an X534 tractor on e-bay and the seller says the unit has 350 hrs on a 2006 tractor. I am moving up from a 1976 317 that I had bought new then and I only have about 450 hrs on it 36 years!!! I notice that a lot of tractors of that vintage have as many hours. Am I needlessly worrying? They must have really big lawns!!!!
 
#4 ·
:ditto:

If that was someone's only tractor, then that is not an unusually high number of hours. There are a bunch of things besides mowing that will put hours on a tractor. With the drought last year, I probably put nearly as many hours on either tractor doing other things as I did mowing. As long as it was well maintained and cared for, I wouldn't worry if it was priced right.
 
#5 ·
my mow sheen has around 1187 hrs.i guess it depends on how much you run them.1988.but who knows if there correct hours, no smoke from engine.longs they run right why worry.thats on a onan. maybe tomorrow it go,s up in smoke.16 others to take its place.if you only have one thats another story.sounds like a buy to me.:trink40:
 
#6 ·
hours are meaningless compared to how it was taken care of. easy to put in a new hobbs meter too and make it look low hours... (seems like WAY too many tractors have between 350 & 450 hours for all to be true readings)

I do 75-100 a year just snowblowing! (homeowner 1 driveway)



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#7 ·
If everyone's lawn was the same size:

- If you live in snow country, you use the tractor year-round that way and rack up more.

- Same if you live down south (think Florida) where you really never stop mowing.

- Somewhere in the middle where the grass doesn't grow in the winter and there is no snowblowing the tractors have fewer hours.

Of course, none of this means crap. I've seen people mow 3 acres with a 38" deck, and others mow 1/4 acre with a 62".
 
#8 ·
I guess I wouldn't worry about it if it was well taken care of. With proper maintenance those Kawasaki Motors run a long time. That is a 4 Wheel Steer Model so you may have some linkages, etc. that could wear out. More moving parts..just the nature of the beast.
 
#9 ·
Seems about a average hour usage if it is accurate. Since you didn't rack up a lot of hours on the 317, then the x5++ should be okay for many years. I would love to have a 317 with only 450 hours!! Is it still a Series1 or was it swapped to the Onan by the Dealership?:fing32:
 
#10 ·
Thats a very average amount of hours for a 2006. As MXZRXP said, whats more important is if and how it was serviced. Its only 100 hours passed the 250 hour service, which is a major one. If he had it done he should have receipts, if not and you do decide to buy it, you should do the 250 hr service just to be on the safe side.
 
#13 ·
Just looked on ebay and only found only one X534 with 431 hours going for $4900. Either way, I would consider 350 hours low. I am kicking myself now for not buying a Toro 416XT with snow blade and deck with 220 hours because I thought it had high hours.

Power 4WS is now a necessity. I am now on the lookout for an X729.
 
#15 ·
Are the air-cooled machines on the smaller Deere's that much worse than liquid-cooled? I've traded off my 4x5 machines only when they've exceeded 2000 hours and at that point (gas or diesel) they were starting quickly, running smoothly, using no oil, and working strongly. At the rate many folks use their machines on this forum it seems to me a garden tractor could indeed last a human lifetime.
 
#16 ·
I agree with others, 350 hours over 7 years is nothing. I have a lawn service, so I only use my X320 to move firewood, haul woodchips and pick up sticks and branches around our 5 acre wooded property, and that easily put 50 hours on it each year.

Challenge with ebay is unless the seller is local, you have to take his word on the maintenance record and how the tractor runs. By the time they ship it to your house, it is too late. So for something like a tractor where there can be many hidden factors affecting its life, I would never touch anything on eBay unless it is local. As I really don't need that kind of headache for a lawn tractor purchase.
 
#18 ·
Hour meter readings can be vague at best if you ask me,,, my CUT uses a meter that records hours by max rpm whereas the new x300r uses an electric meter which spins the same amount no matter if the machine is mowing, idling or just plain key on,, man it sure runs up the hours ALOT faster than the CUT. Id say by the rate the JD runs up the hours my walkbehinds/CUT would have rolled over the JD meter by now and they work just fine and will continue for years to come. I say its all about visable condition of the machine, not that the hour meter reading isnt figured into that but to judge just by a number on a meter might have you pass up a decent deal.
 
#19 ·
the X3/X5/X7 series hour meters are pulse fed so they only increment if the engine is running. the ones on the D1xx and most other manufacturers' box store models will count up anytime 12v is applied to them. i don't know about older lines of the Deere GT, but i know for a fact my X500 only counts if the engine is running.
 
#20 ·
Yup, same with my X595, it only adds up the hours when the engine is running. I never checked how it works on my B26, but it may be the way jd5020d explained it. It works off the RPMs you're running at and not actual time.

I personally think it would better and easier, if they would just pick one system and use it on all tractors