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#41 ·
I hope the original poster was joshing a bit with the initial post...

I would say don't blame the machine because someone did something not-smart ( fueling-up indoors )...

I'm old enough to remember when many folk's "gas-can" was a 2 or 2.5 gallon oil-can, with a metal flex-spout ( available from your local Mom & Pop Hardware store ).

In hindsight, that wasn't the best idea either - the oil cans were made from pretty light sheetmetal ( "tin"), and tended to tip-over, due to their tallness and narrow base.

I'm glad there's an alternative to the spring-loaded "geeze-us spout"...

Just my musings ...
 
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#43 ·
Richard-tx said:
I gave up on all of the no-spill plastic cans.

Now all I buy are these:

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Try filling a 4 wheeler gas tank with a no-spill can. It takes about 3 times longer to fill the tank which mean you are holding 5 gallons of gas in the air for about 3 minutes or more. No fun at all.

The cans come with a funnel. They are also available in green, yellow, and blue.

I will hold a propane torch flame onto the side of this metal can vs one of the plastic cans. Guess which one will burn first.
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These are basically the same as the Eagle Type II cans, available in both 2 and 5 gallon. Available with a flexible spout, funnel or neither. Great cans. I have two of them.
 
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#45 ·
NATO cans are engineering perfection. You'll spend a little more for them, but they are worth it.
 
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#46 ·
They will "advance" the technology of gasoline dispensing and it will include live electricity in the spout. You just wait and see. The average dweeb will agree to it too cause it will have optical sensors that gauge the distance from the top surface of the liquid to the home location on the nozzle and meter the flow according to how fast the distance closes and that suits his busy lifestyle. You know those pesky odd shaped tanks that require trained judgement and close observation? You wont need to bother with thinking about that anymore. ohh no not anymore!! It will optimize and mazimize your refueling experience and give you just the right amount you need every time. Just plug a 10ga extension cord to it and wait for the led lcd screen to open to the home screen and it will tell you when you may begin. When the frown face goes to a full out smile then you know the tank is full. Or if you decide to get the deluxe spout, it will have a bigger led lcd widescreen 1080p resolution and you can program in the square footage of the job, press 1 for lawn, press 2 for snowblower, press 3 etc with all the remaining presets available for custom tailoring it to your individual job cause they know your a real man with alot on your plate. Three settings alone might be good for the suburbanite, but not good enough for what you gotta get done. A micro usb port so you can transfer your elaborate fueling maps over from your droid or iphone from the free included fuel spout app and charge your battery at the same time. the spout will end up being 4 inches in diameter and unable to fit any tank, but it will be wifi enabled so you can update facebook with the new video you just took of yourself running around in your back yard with your hair and tshirt on fire.
 
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Greg in WV said:
I bought a funnel but I still need a solid cap to replace the spout that doesn't work (after only about 6 months). I'll look at TSC for the converter but I thought it was illegal to sell such things. I have a few cans but the threads on the neck are different. I guess standardizing things like that doesn't make sense to people.:Disgus:
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The 5 gallon diesel can with the hook slips off the BX's filler neck. I bought a funnel too. The idiot who figured it was a good idea to use this new style setup on a 5 gallon can was smoking something.
 
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I will also recommend the "No-Spill" brand of fuel can. I own three (two gas and one diesel) and find them very easy to use. The only improvement would be to have a clear strip on the five gallon can like they have on the 2-1/2 gallon size.

Some may not be aware that the NFPA also makes recommendations on fuel cans besides the EPA and OSHA. Before they were originally introduced, a metal can was commonly used. These could become bombs if in a building/vehicle involved in fire. A plastic can will melt before it explodes. Another reason that fuel ignites is because of a spark traveling up the spout to the contents. Simple static electricity is capable of causing that and is why fuel flow is restricted. It may seem silly but that is the dynamics involved. A wire mesh is inside the spout of the Safety Can that Richard recommended, can withstand 5 psi of pressure, and also has a positive shutoff. Yes, safety comes at a price.

I can remember owning two gas cans (one straight gas and the other a mix for my chainsaw) in the early '80s that had a wire mesh inside. They were larger than normal to maintain the volume lost by the mesh. But they prevented a flame or spark reaching the contents. At the time, I worked for the fire department and had seen the effects of a metal gasoline can in a fire. My daughters bedrooms were over the garage where they were stored and so I wanted the most safety I could obtain. But they suffered with the same malady of metal in that they rusted along the base at the pinch. Interestingly there is a recommendation to put mesh in the spout to prevent a spark traveling back to the can. Blitz Mfr.went out of business due to the liability in defending themselves against improper usage of gas cans by the consumer. Too many people suing them after pouring gas on wood to light a fire! I hate to think of having a "modified " can be the source of an emergency - and be my fault.

Gerry cans are a good bet. It is a tried and true design. But I would be leery of the knock-off version sold at HF. It just seems to be too light.
 
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Canary Al said:
Just curios Richard - what does one expect to pay for those?
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About $30-$40 depending on where you shop.

The Justrite has all metal handles. The Eagle has a plastic pull handle.

When it comes to gasoline. it is the vapors that burn, not the liquid. That is why car manufacturers can put electric fuel pumps inside the gas tank of cars.

I bought a couple of plastic no-spill cans from Tractor Supply. That was a big mistake. I eventually added a vent and gutted the no-spill spout to them to make them useable.
 
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#51 ·
I trashed the cans I had that people like to modify.
 
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#52 ·
If you do the valve stem vent fix, don't use a rubber stem, get the metal one with the rubber gasket. The rubber stems deteriorate after about 6 months, and fall apart. And don't do it on a spring loaded sleeve type nozzle, it needs the vacuum in the can to restrict the flow or fuel runs out around the top (in pouring position) of the sleeve.
 
#53 ·
The rubber gasket should be replaced with a neoprene gasket. The neoprene shouldn't be affected by the chemicals in gasoline.
 
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#54 ·
The VP plastic jugs are the way to go now. Any type of race shop or online catalog should have cans and a cap that can either be solid or a tube can be threaded in.

Another plus to those vans is they are easy to modify. I've seen hand cranks with long tubes so you don't have to lift the can and PVC nipples put in the hose with a real cap. Some guys also put a ball valve in the hose so you can open close or restrict the flow.

If you usually need more than 5 gal in something or have a hard time holding the jug while not spilling this setup is pretty sweet.
 
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Richard-tx said:
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I bought a couple of plastic no-spill cans from Tractor Supply. That was a big mistake. I eventually added a vent and gutted the no-spill spout to them to make them useable.
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Wow! And I'ver found them to be the best gas can I've ever owned, worth every penny. Odd that our experience is so different?? :dunno:

Just to be clear, you ARE referring to the No-Spill brand of gas jug, correct? Because some people refer to all the new EPA-approved gas jugs generically as "no-spill" cans.
 
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I know it's wrong , but, I find the most convenient cans for the 2cycle small stuff is the 1gal tin can that contained jack oil or thinners etc. 2.5 gal motor oil plastic jugs for gravely sized equipment and gi cans with the metal flex pipe for all else. AS far as keeping gas in an attached garage with people in the house, forgetaboutit. Thats what sheds are for. Ruben
 
#60 ·
I don't know, I think that news story in the original post sounds a little fishy. Kind of like they broke the story before they knew what they were talking about, it was insurance fraud, or another meth lab bit the dust. Then the authorities showed up and the junky said...uh...uh...I poured gas in the snowblower and it blew up...
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Few things irritate me like the new gas cans do. I guess it's because they are such a simple thing, and like every other thing these days they can't just leave it alone. They have to redesign it, re-engineer it, and "improve" it until it doesn't work anymore.
Head over to the BlitzUSA youtube channel and you can find a video showing the family of winners who have ruined every single new gas can made.
 
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