try this with a new Gt lol rofl

stonykill · Sep 19, 2008

Do that once with a new GT and your differential will be lying on the ground in pieces. I've owned this old Jake for 7 years. The 1st year she mowed the lawn. Since then, this is what she is expected to do and does without complaining. The trailer is 4 x 8 x 3 feet high, and its full of split wet pine and oak. Low range, 1/2 throttle untill a hill, then its full throttle.

She was free. Gotta love that!

The k301 still purrs like its new, but its 36 years old. You just can't buy a machine today like these old gt's. Not at any price!

Carl · Sep 19, 2008

That is quite a load when you start going up hill with it. But what about going down hills?

LLigetfa · Sep 19, 2008

Carl said:
But what about going down hills?

Put her in Mexican overdrive and hang on!

stonykill · Sep 19, 2008

Carl said:
That is quite a load when you start going up hill with it. But what about going down hills?

I don't go down any large hills with a load like that.I skid logs down out of the woods to a flat field and split and load , head over a bridge, acrossed another field, up a steep hill, and into my yard. The brakes are really good and I can stop loaded on a hill however.

JMoe · Sep 20, 2008

Pfftt... My Cub 2544 would pull that GT AND the trailer load of wood. 'Course I'd probably be replacing broken stuff afterwords.:sidelaugh

Joel

stonykill · Sep 20, 2008

JMoe said:
Pfftt... My Cub 2544 would pull that GT AND the trailer load of wood.

Joel

then you woke up:sidelaugh

It was all a dream:ROF

draddogs · Sep 20, 2008

I will take your load on with my GS6500 as it does more than that daily with 20-24inch by 20 inches long red oak logs and I do pull up and down hills here in Tennessee. there are 20+ on the 4x6 trailer.

Mayor · Sep 20, 2008

stonykill said:
You just can't buy a machine today like these old gt's. Not at any price!

Your right about the old iron but you can still buy a great GT today. Might cost you $9000 but it will be every bit the tractor you have. My old AC b210 was a great unit and I miss it but a JDx7xx would drag it that trailer and maybe a few other things around with out any issues. You can even keep the brake on! :trink40:

stonykill · Sep 20, 2008

Mayor said:
Your right about the old iron but you can still buy a great GT today. Might cost you $9000 but it will be every bit the tractor you have. My old AC b210 was a great unit and I miss it but a JDx7xx would drag it that trailer and maybe a few other things around with out any issues. You can even keep the brake on! :trink40:

I guess time will tell. With the way things are built today, built NOT to last, I highly doubt the new gt's will still be working 36 years later on the original engine and hydro.

professor · Sep 20, 2008

Stony, you are not being fair. These old machines were very expensive when new. I calculate the currency depreciation at around 8 times the 1970 prices. So a machine that cost 1000$ then would be 8000$ now. Can you say "Upper end"?
Of course, with NAFTA and free trade lowering out standard of living, all most can afford is what is sold today.

stonykill · Sep 20, 2008

professor said:
Stony, you are not being fair. These old machines were very expensive when new. I calculate the currency depreciation at around 8 times the 1970 prices. So a machine that cost 1000$ then would be 8000$ now. Can you say "Upper end"?
Of course, with NAFTA and free trade lowering out standard of living, all most can afford is what is sold today.

proffesor, your not reading what I typed.

What? Not being fair? Quality is quality. The old machines were built to last. New ones are built to be replaced.

I wasn't doing a price comparison. I'm talking quality.

When I'm old and feeble, I'll see then if any of these new gt's are left. I highly doubt it. They are not built like the old ones were.

Mayor · Sep 20, 2008

Let me put it this way. What tractor today is a match up to yours? Any brand or price.

I feel the same way as the Professor that a GT today can last as long as one from the 70's. You just can't say this was a $1000 in the 70's and that tractor is $1000 today. Your right that $1000 tractor would last a weekend with me.
$1000 GT from the 70's is a $9000 GT today. Both are built to last and work very hard. :fing32:

rustyoldjunk · Sep 20, 2008

guys i gotta go with stony here,for the most part.true there are new gt's that can do the work of our old iron but i do believe there is a shorter lifespan built into everything today os the companies figured out long ago that you cant stay in business if you sell each customer one product that will last a lifetime.the new top of the line ones may not break any easier then our old top of the line machines ( but like with old cars the new ones just dont have the style lol ) i believe the internals has faster wear built into them maybe not the average 5-7 years maybe 10-15 but i think its there.remember back in the 60's when companies like international harvester pick up trucks had the higher nickel content in the engine blocks? i think that today they have purposely have deleted any extra longevity from products so to survive in todays tighter economy.just my 2 cents worth

stonykill · Sep 20, 2008

Mayor said:
Let me put it this way. What tractor today is a match up to yours? Any brand or price.

I feel the same way as the Professor that a GT today can last as long as one from the 70's. You just can't say this was a $1000 in the 70's and that tractor is $1000 today. Your right that $1000 tractor would last a weekend with me.
$1000 GT from the 70's is a $9000 GT today. Both are built to last and work very hard. :fing32:

I never put a price tag on it. I said you can't buy one today at ANY PRICE. I never said $1000 to $1000. Someone else did.

Ingersoll444 · Sep 20, 2008

Oh I know what your saying stony. It not that the new high end stuff is not good, but I belive your talking 40+ years down the road, what are you going to have? Are you gunna be able to get bearings, and bushings for the transaxle? Is that new vtwin high HP motor gonning to be rebuildable after 2000 hours? It not a knock agenst the new tractors, its manufactuing itself. Back in the day, things were belt to last as long as was possable. They were belt the best they could at the time. Today everything is built to a certin life span. Parts are designed to give the best proformace for a set ammount of years.

Mayor · Sep 20, 2008

rustyoldjunk said:
guys i gotta go with stony here,for the most part.true there are new gt's that can do the work of our old iron but i do believe there is a shorter lifespan built into everything today os the companies figured out long ago that you cant stay in business if you sell each customer one product that will last a lifetime.the new top of the line ones may not break any easier then our old top of the line machines ( but like with old cars the new ones just dont have the style lol ) i believe the internals has faster wear built into them maybe not the average 5-7 years maybe 10-15 but i think its there.remember back in the 60's when companies like international harvester pick up trucks had the higher nickel content in the engine blocks? i think that today they have purposely have deleted any extra longevity from products so to survive in todays tighter economy.just my 2 cents worth

Very good points!

Maybe a thread that has owners of GT's (one owner) list the sale price and other cost involved to date. I would think after a few post we could start to see some good information.

Mayor · Sep 20, 2008

stonykill said:
I never put a price tag on it. I said you can't buy one today at ANY PRICE. I never said $1000 to $1000. Someone else did.

Maybe this is why I have an SCUT but I still think you can get a high end GT to last the same amount of years as the older units. It is true on the part lifespan to a point but if the unit is taken care of I can see it making it.

LLigetfa · Sep 20, 2008

Depends on what you call a SCUT versus a GT. Many of the GTs of yesterday are the SCUTs of today.

stonykill · Sep 20, 2008

Ingersoll444 said:
Oh I know what your saying stony. It not that the new high end stuff is not good, but I belive your talking 40+ years down the road, what are you going to have? Are you gunna be able to get bearings, and bushings for the transaxle? Is that new vtwin high HP motor gonning to be rebuildable after 2000 hours? It not a knock agenst the new tractors, its manufactuing itself. Back in the day, things were belt to last as long as was possable. They were belt the best they could at the time. Today everything is built to a certin life span. Parts are designed to give the best proformace for a set ammount of years.

now thats what I'm saying.

Mayor · Sep 20, 2008

LLigetfa said:
Depends on what you call a SCUT versus a GT. Many of the GTs of yesterday are the SCUTs of today.

Example?

try this with a new Gt lol rofl

stonykill

Carl

LLigetfa

stonykill

JMoe

stonykill

draddogs

Mayor

stonykill

professor

stonykill

Mayor

rustyoldjunk

stonykill

Ingersoll444

Mayor

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LLigetfa

stonykill

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