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Does the fact that Toro/Wheel Horse tractors are no longer manufactured by Toro bother you!!! It is disgusting to me to know that MTD is building the tractors under the Toro label!!:fing32: I have a major concern because I recenly purchased a GT-3000! What a POS for $3K!!
 
I don't understand how you were "had". Did you buy it blindfolded?
Why is it a POS, you didn't explain the problem other than who its made by. And really, if it doesn't look like my avatar, it ain't a Wheel Horse!
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I don't understand how you were "had". Did you buy it blindfolded?
Why is it a POS, you didn't explain the problem other than who its made by. And really, if it doesn't look like my avatar, it ain't a Wheel Horse!
Let us know and :Welcome1:
Totally agree!! I had a 319-8 Wheel Horse for 20 years, 1 drive belt and 1 spark plug, not bad for 20 years. Sold it and bought the GT-3000 that I thought was a Toro, not so, MTD!! Bigest problem is the deck will not disperse the clippings, grass is suspended just like in a blender. Have to stop and dig it out with my hand. Just like making pesto in a blender!! This is not good!!
 
Yeah... know the feeling on those decks. But honestly, no deck works great on sticky spring grass. I learned that the only way to cut on MTD decks effectively is to either bag which they do a great job at, or disperse clippings. If dispersing, you must leave the chute down or slightly propped up with a stick or shim. If you hold the deflector open, it will suck in more air and cause total disturbance to the air circulation. These decks can cut very nice, but are tempermental. I believe its due to them being low domed and not high domed like the old Wheel Horse decks. Don't despair, it will work and cut well.
 
Totally agree!! I had a 319-8 Wheel Horse for 20 years, 1 drive belt and 1 spark plug, not bad for 20 years. Sold it and bought the GT-3000 that I thought was a Toro, not so, MTD!! Bigest problem is the deck will not disperse the clippings, grass is suspended just like in a blender. Have to stop and dig it out with my hand. Just like making pesto in a blender!! This is not good!!
are you using a stock blade?
 
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are you using a stock blade?
Using what came on it. Bought it last spring. Worst drought in my lifetime during spring and summer, deck still clogs up!! Over seeded this fall with fescue and rye mix, nice color and fairly good coverage, still not able to mow!! Wife follows me with wheelbarow and rake! No clippings just wads spit out on occaision. Only way to mow is to shut off PTO every round, let the suspended grass drop down, then jog the PTO to get rid of what is remaining. The deck wash on the GT-300 is one more big joke!! The dealer has a big pile of wood chips that he uses the clean out the decks. Lowers the deck on the chips, engages the blade and virtually sand plasts the debris out of the deck!! Poor MTD design!
 
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Totally agree!! I had a 319-8 Wheel Horse for 20 years, 1 drive belt and 1 spark plug, not bad for 20 years. Sold it and bought the GT-3000 that I thought was a Toro, not so, MTD!! Bigest problem is the deck will not disperse the clippings, grass is suspended just like in a blender. Have to stop and dig it out with my hand. Just like making pesto in a blender!! This is not good!!
Note typo; 319-8 should have been 310-8, sorry about that!!
 
Note typo; 319-8 should have been 310-8, sorry about that!!
I figured as much!

You have the 50" deck right? The 50" replaced the 48" and they are a superior deck. You may want to post a thread over on the Cub Cadet forum for assistance with your issue. Those guys have the same exact deck, maybe a common issue or you need different blades. Sure they aren't upside down? You'd be surprised.
 
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Actually a 54" deck is standard on the GT-3000. Since the deck is fairly thin as guage goes, the support across the bottom of the discharge opening is a magnet for collecting clippings!! This is apparently the same deck on all MTD manufactured mowers; Cub Cadet, John Deere, etc!! I will attach pictures of the mess and carnage it creates when I attemp to mow again early this week. Matter of fact, here is a pic I sent Toro Customer Service a while back.
 

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I know it`s a new mower but have you thought about removing that sheet meal strap that blocking the chute exit. You could alway reinforce th opening from above. Like you said your stuck with the POS at least you would be able to blow the clipping out of the deck. To bad you didn`t take it back when you first bought it.

The Dealership where I buy my equipment from won`t even carry that MTD made mower. In fact he doesn`t even show any of Toro`s commercial mowers ant more. look at bottom of this page in link only carries the consumer grade zero turns.

Link http://www.ganos.com/residential.htm
 
Why isn't the 3000 on the Toro web?

I still say that holding that chute open as you are doing with the bungee cord will create more problems too. The real issue, your grass may as well be glue. When it rolls up on the wheels like that this time of year, there isn't much you will be able to do. I recommend in order to keep your sanity, to cut at a higher setting. Taking less grass will help you a lot. Grass just greened up recently, so its in full root production. That means its going to be sticky and wreak havoc with everything. The larger the deck, the more grass its cutting the bigger the problem.

Start with raising the cutting height.
 
PS- If you're keeping it, I'd get rid of that metal bar as well with a 4" grinder. The deck will keep its shape, that little metal bar is doing more damage than its worth.
 
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I know it`s a new mower but have you thought about removing that sheet meal strap that blocking the chute exit. You could alway reinforce th opening from above. Like you said your stuck with the POS at least you would be able to blow the clipping out of the deck. To bad you didn`t take it back when you first bought it.

The Dealership where I buy my equipment from won`t even carry that MTD made mower. In fact he doesn`t even show any of Toro`s commercial mowers ant more. look at bottom of this page in link only carries the consumer grade zero turns.

Link http://www.ganos.com/residential.htm
My dealer only carries the Toro zero turn. He will not even take my POS in trade at any price. He even has trouble with warranty claims on the MTD fabiricated mowers, Toro sends the claims to MTD!!! Toro is just selling a name!! Once a good name in the tractor types!!
 
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Why isn't the 3000 on the Toro web?

I still say that holding that chute open as you are doing with the bungee cord will create more problems too. The real issue, your grass may as well be glue. When it rolls up on the wheels like that this time of year, there isn't much you will be able to do. I recommend in order to keep your sanity, to cut at a higher setting. Taking less grass will help you a lot. Grass just greened up recently, so its in full root production. That means its going to be sticky and wreak havoc with everything. The larger the deck, the more grass its cutting the bigger the problem.

Start with raising the cutting height.
Always mow at settings 4 or 5, none higher to go to. Bunge was a last resort as it is a little better than the deflector. Been mowing all winter, have mixture of fescue and rye. Have always done this with little to no problem with my old Wheel Horse or Kubota. Even had the same problem in the middle of the worst drought in Tennesee history this past summer. The deck just turn the grass in something like making pesto in a blender. I never mow wet grass, always throttle to the wall, never mow more than about 1/2 deck wide, blades sharpe, etc. I want to trade but know takers!!:fing20:
 
Sounds like you are doing everything you can then.

Then its the classifieds, ebay and craigslist. Good time to sell, get it listed and be done with it.

Start the research now to find a replacement. I would seriously consider a Craftsman DGT6000. They have tall domed decks, cut really nice and will handle ground engaging attachments all day long.
 
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Sounds like you are doing everything you can then.

Then its the classifieds, ebay and craigslist. Good time to sell, get it listed and be done with it.

Start the research now to find a replacement. I would seriously consider a Craftsman DGT6000. They have tall domed decks, cut really nice and will handle ground engaging attachments all day long.
Thanks for the info, I have been mowing my own grass for over 50 years, this problem is a first for me and quite a mystery. Tried to get Toro, not the dealer, to give me credit on a commerical zero turn, no way, they don't what it either. Toro has a less than desired Customer Service!!
 
Well I cussed the shallow deck on my Troy built for a year , then decided to change blades (one of them was bent and cutting circles in the ground) both blades were put on the mower upside down when I bought it at Lowes. With new right-side-up mulching bladed it cuts up a storm.

It looks to me that you are trying to cut too big a swarth, and cutting too low, at too fast a drive speed and a too slow deck speed on too wet to mow turf. Other than that I don't know. The bar isn't the problem, it keeps the deck from bending, nor is the deflector chute, It is mostly the person doing the mowing,..... unless the mower isn't capable of developing full RPMs , then the person doing the mowing should find out why?.
 
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