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Can somebody tell me where the Landlord falls in the line of Simplicity mowers? I see a used 18 HP Vanguard w/ 50" deck available and I could probably talk the seller down a bit. I'd really like to find something used that will last a few years than go with a new machine. I have 1 acre, 1/2 of it is fairly level terrain, but the rear yard has a good slope (Almost pushing the limits of rideable at its steepest). If I strike out on something used, I am considering a 22/44 Broadmoor over the x320; But I have not sat in a Simplicity yet to compare comfort -I am 6'3".
 
The Landlord is a top of the line LT, or the bottom of the GT market. If you are looking for a great mower then a Landlord is for you. It also has a snowthrower attachment, dozer blade but no ground engagement attachments.
It should be a beast at mowing!
what year are we talking?
 
If its that steep I would avoid both the X320 and the broadmoor. You need something with a heavier transmission and possibly differential lock for the slope use. BTW I have a 1998 Landlord 18/50 and I love it.
 
I had a 1999 20hp Landlord with differential lock with the 50" deck and a 42" snowblower. It handled both without any problems. Got around my mound system when wet with the help of the lock. Good tractor and would like to find a good used one again.
 
If its that steep I would avoid both the X320 and the broadmoor. You need something with a heavier transmission and possibly differential lock for the slope use. BTW I have a 1998 Landlord 18/50 and I love it.
Seconded!
 
The Landlord is built on the GT (Sovereign) chassis. Soverign has the most power, then Landlord, and I think they had some other goofy name like that for another power/equipment level for a little while. The older ones (horizontal shaft) I believe share the same transmissions.

The Broadmoor is the biggest of the smaller frame tractors.
 
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If its that steep I would avoid both the X320 and the broadmoor. You need something with a heavier transmission and possibly differential lock for the slope use. BTW I have a 1998 Landlord 18/50 and I love it.
Thanks. A major factor which is tough to describe in words is how steep is that steep. I used to run a Kubota b5200 with diff lock on 3 acres with moderate slopes and really only used the lock on rare occasion when the ground was wet. I'm thinking my lot here is not too much worse than that and I am more concerned with engine strain hauling my butt up the hill on a regular basis than traction. Perhaps I'll wait out a purchase until mid summer and see if I can't get a few neighbors to navigate my rear yard to see how their machines fare.

Other options I have considered getting something used to haul a small cart and push snow only and finding a separate walk behind for the mowing. Do you think a massey ferguson 2600 is equivalent to the broadmoor and x320 or maybe slightly better?
 
I think the major point is not the diff lock, but the robustness of the tranny. I have a lot of hills to mow, and I'm thinking a smaller machine would have quit by now. I have a Conquest with the K66L tranny, and it has been great so far. It's rated for light ground engagement use, so it's up to hauling the machine and me up these hills.
 
I wouldn't buy a tractor unless it had a horizontal engine. I never have gotten long life out of a vertical. Usually first thing that happens is it starts smoking bad followed by oil coming out of the exhaust. Then you have fouled spark plugs. Only thing I have concluded is either because the pistons ride on the cylinder wall of the engine, or the engine vibrates side to side. On a horizontal engine, I can make those last for dang near forever.

1-1/2 acres is a pretty good size yard. It even takes some time with a 60" deck. With a 44" deck it would probably take 5-6 hours. If you have trees, longer.
 
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Found CTX 9500 26 hp w/k66 marked down to just under $3200. And with 15% off, I figure $2,720 to mow a moderate slope, pull a cart, aerator or leaf sweeper ain't too bad a deal.
 
The Landlord is built on the GT (Sovereign) chassis. Soverign has the most power, then Landlord, and I think they had some other goofy name like that for another power/equipment level for a little while. The older ones (horizontal shaft) I believe share the same transmissions.

The Broadmoor is the biggest of the smaller frame tractors.
I think you are talking about a different era. And your right about the nutty names. What passed for a Sovereign one year would be a Landlord the next and then Baron. Only thing that had any consistency was the numbering system and they had far more models than anyone could keep up with. The landlords they are talking about here are an entirely different "tractor".

Top of the line Landlord
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Entry level Landlord
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Vertical shaft LandLord.
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IMHO, the Landlord would be a good tractor. It should have a K71 tranny, which will handle most any chore - except maybe moldboard plowing. If traction becomes an issue, you can add ag tires and some wheel weights and it ought to go like a jeep.

The Landlord's K71 is a stronger tranny than the K66 used on the 9500 you are looking at.

Good luck,
Bill
 
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