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I have some loader mounted implements that I want to build that have hyd. on them so I need to add some aux. outlets on the loader. I've already found an electric selector valve to use the bucket roll cyl. valve to operate the aux. outlets.
The things I'm still trying to figure out is where to mount the valve https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-5117-A&catname=hydraulic

and what lines to use from the valve to the quick connects that will be near the bucket. I'd like to keep the valve on the tractor but I'm having trouble finding places to mount it, once I have the valve it might be easier to find a spot.

What is the best way to tap into the lines? I really don't want to cut the stock hard lines and tee into them and the lines are banjo fittings at the valve. Is there a good way to stack banjo fittings?

Last question, I really want to keep hard lines from the quick disconnects at the bucket to the quick disconnects at the tractor side of the loader. What steel tube would work best for that?

Thanks, Brad
 
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Look what UPS brought me this morning! Its the selector valve to add the aux. outlets to the loader! Now I need to figure out where to mount it so I can work out the fitting and hoses to hook everything up. Kubota did a good job making eveything compact on this tractor, a little too good. There's not much space for something like this!

I'll try to keep track of the part # used and take pictures in case anyone else wants to do this.

Brad
 

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Nice. Can't help you on how to run hard lines or where to mount it. Did you pass on the Kubota dual rear remote kit? Runs something north of $300 for two sets of remotes at the rear. I realize you want aux. hydraulics at the front but one option would be to run hoses down the tractor frame to the front for a grapple, etc. That's what I was going to do with my BX1860 that had the rear remotes, IF I did ever get a grapple thumb or maybe a 4-way blade mounted to the FEL bucket. Good luck and keep us updated with how you set it all up.
 
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I liked the idea of the selector because I can moun the button on the joystick making it a one hand operation. I would also like to mount rear outlets one day down the road, I wasn't aware that there were any factory kits available. Was $300 for it at purchase or later? Sometimes the price is way higher if you want to add it later.

I did take the valve out this morning to try and find a place to mount it, well this looks like its going to be a challange to find a space for it. I don't have a MMM so it might have to go under the floor or on the left side and run the lines over. When I have more time I'll dive into it a bit more.

Brad
 
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TooManyGT said:
I liked the idea of the selector because I can moun the button on the joystick making it a one hand operation. I would also like to mount rear outlets one day down the road, I wasn't aware that there were any factory kits available. Was $300 for it at purchase or later? Sometimes the price is way higher if you want to add it later.
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Brad, I bought my kit from Messick's for $320 including tax (they charge CT tax even though they're in PA) so I did not get it with the tractor. May have gone up since then.
 
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Brad, here's pic of the dual rear remote kit on my old BX1860. The valve bolts to the side of the HST and the levers come up into the empty lever slot at the back right side control area (as you're sitting in the seat). Pretty neat kit I thought. I do like your solution for a grapple however, but this might be something you'll want to add for auxiliary rear hydraulics.
 

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Brad, here's pic of the dual rear remote kit on my old BX1860. The valve bolts to the side of the HST and the levers come up into the empty lever slot at the back right side control area (as you're sitting in the seat). Pretty neat kit I thought. I do like your solution for a grapple however, but this might be something you'll want to add for auxiliary rear hydraulics.
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That is pretty cool. How difficult of an instal was it?
 
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Todds112 said:
That is pretty cool. How difficult of an instal was it?
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Not too bad. You need to remove the right rear tire to mount the valve and levers. Gets a little tight getting a wrench on all the fittings but not impossible. Crows feet or some type of formed or bent open end wrenches would help. Here's a few more pic's to give you an idea.
 

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Thats a nice looking setup, I hope they make one for the B2620. Only reason I'm not sure is that the B has the loader valve under the seat already and doesn't have a place for an extra lever on the fender like yours does. Rear outlets are defenantly on the list of things I want to do to the B though.

I'm just racking my brain trying to figure out where to mount the valve out of the way where it won't get caught on anything.

Brad
 
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Gentlemen, once again showing my ignorance, what are these rear hyd. set ups for. would one still need them if they had the hoe on the rear, but then there are only two ports. And I always wondered what that empty slot was for. I should not have skipped Tractoring 101
 
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TooManyGT said:
Thats a nice looking setup, I hope they make one for the B2620. Only reason I'm not sure is that the B has the loader valve under the seat already and doesn't have a place for an extra lever on the fender like yours does. Rear outlets are defenantly on the list of things I want to do to the B though.

I'm just racking my brain trying to figure out where to mount the valve out of the way where it won't get caught on anything.

Brad
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Brad, my apologies. I read you as having a BX2660, not a B2620. :banghead3

This kit is for the non TLB BXs. Sorry for the confusion. I understand Kubota does offer a single rear remote option for the B's, but I don't know how/where it's installed, plus I think it runs $700. Don't know why the BX kit is so much less for 2 remotes. Anyway, in the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Never Mind".

Dave, the rear remotes are to run any auxiliary hydraulic implements. In my case, I put together a hydraulic top link from various Surplus Center supplies (see first pic), plus I ran my small log splitter off the valve using a wedge to hold the lever open. If one adds a grapple thumb to their loader, you could run hoses from the rear to the FEL to power the grapple claw.
 
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Brad, I've seen aux hdraulics for B's mounted on the ROPS. The most common valve I've seen in this setup also had the levers mounted on one end of the valve and the outlets at the other (and bottom). This way the levers were to the right and just behind the operator.

re. mounting the selector valve. ATI and some other grapple makers mount the selector valve directly on the FEL. Generally on the main cross brace and use quick connect lines. Course this means that when the FEL is removed the valve goes with it. Depending upon what you plan to do, this may or may not be what you want.

Dave, those aux rear outlets can be used for quite a few handy tasks. Alot of folks use them for a "top & tilt" setup so they can adjust both the top link and the adjustable down link on the 3ph. This is mainly used for angleing boxblades, plows and rear blades of all types without having to leave the seat :D
Other uses are to provide hydro power to dump a tow behind dump cart.
To operate an FEL mounted (or standalone) grapple or 3-in-1 FEL
Some folks use them to provide hydro power to operate a 3ph mounted log splitter.
I've seen hydraulic winches mounted on tractors also.
Basically, you can use the tractors aux hydro outputs to provide hydro power to implements.
There are other uses I'm sure someone will add.
Dave
 
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Thank you for the clearafication. I understand the grapple hook on the loader, but for a hyd. top link is the hoe hook up sufficient and also what about the splitter would my hook up work or do I need all 4 ports? I dont plan on getting one but I was just trying to educate myself. THANKS for the free lesson.
 
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dave martineau said:
Thank you for the clearafication. I understand the grapple hook on the loader, but for a hyd. top link is the hoe hook up sufficient and also what about the splitter would my hook up work or do I need all 4 ports? I dont plan on getting one but I was just trying to educate myself. THANKS for the free lesson.
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Dave, sounds like you have a BX with a backhoe, correct? You can't use the BH ports directly for a hydraulic top link because you need a valve in between to allow the fluid to flow through it and downstream to other functions, like your 3PH. Your BH has a specialized valve in it so that's why it works by simply plugging it in. Without a valve, the fluid would flow out to the top link cylinder and be dead ended resulting in an over pressure situation and possible pump damage.

But, you could use your BH powerbeyond loop to run a log splitter since a log splitter has its own valve.

Having just gotten my BX25, I'm in the early stages of planning on how to hook up the log splitter, but evenutally, I think I'll plumb a valve into the BH pressure, power beyond and return to tank ports so I can run my hydraulic top link again.
 
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Does Kubota have an accessories catalog or anything? Seems like they would be publicizing great add ons like this.
 
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Thank you for todays lesson, I have followed along and after reading things twice I believe I am up to speed. I understand about the hyd top link and why my bx25 would need the modification. But I always thought those hyd. dump trailors had there own system{boy I want one of those, but to pricey}
 
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Brad, I've seen aux hdraulics for B's mounted on the ROPS. The most common valve I've seen in this setup also had the levers mounted on one end of the valve and the outlets at the other (and bottom). This way the levers were to the right and just behind the operator.


re. mounting the selector valve. ATI and some other grapple makers mount the selector valve directly on the FEL. Generally on the main cross brace and use quick connect lines. Course this means that when the FEL is removed the valve goes with it. Depending upon what you plan to do, this may or may not be what you want.
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I was originally going to mount the valve up front on the loader but decided to try and mount it back by the tractor to help protect it a little and keep the added function. However if I can't find a suitable place I still might end up putting it out on the main cross brace of the loader and building a metal case to put it in for protection.

Thanks for the help,

Brad
 
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Todds112 said:
Does Kubota have an accessories catalog or anything? Seems like they would be publicizing great add ons like this.
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They do but they don't publish it except to dealers I think. It's called a Wholegoods Catalog and I obtained a copy from someone (here I think) that's a little old so the pricing is likely out of date, but it will give you model and/or kit numbers for ordering. No pic's unfortunately. If you want a copy, PM me your e-mail and I'll send it to you when I get home tonight.
 
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They do but they don't publish it except to dealers I think. It's called a Wholegoods Catalog and I obtained a copy from someone (here I think) that's a little old so the pricing is likely out of date, but it will give you model and/or kit numbers for ordering. No pic's unfortunately. If you want a copy, PM me your e-mail and I'll send it to you when I get home tonight.
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Awesome thanks!
 
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