My OK dream barn

Whirly · Oct 19, 2016

FordTractors said:
Your avatar barn is what I am wanting to build with a second floor for hay storage just like yours. Could you give me some more dimensions? I am thinking each lean to side would be 10ft and the middle tall part either 12 feet or 10 feet. Side walls start out at 8 feet. Not sure how to join roof to tall part and how tall middle should be.

Gary

I scaled down a barn that I tore down.. it was 40 x 60 & 36 feet tall to the upper peak.. the center part had hay storage in it over a loft area.. I used a 1-3 scale so divide all measurements by 3.. I wanted mine to look exactly like the big barn.. since I built it I aquired a cupola that looks somewhat like the one on the top.. I have yet to get it up.. the original barn was built in the early 30's.. it had ceder shingles.. in the 50's or the 60's tin was put on the lower roofs.. the top got tin in the early 90's.. some other guy got the tin from the barn without permission to remove it from the lower roof's.. there was still bales of straw stored in it then that were sold.. there was just enuf of that tin left behind so I could have a tin roof on my barn.. that tin was some of the early tin made... it has a funny shape on the bends..

on my barn I made double opening doors under the loft area.. (hinged on oppisite sides) they don't show up when closed.. inside there is no post to hold up the loft area.. this is held up by the front & rear walls.. my walls on the ends r only 32 inches tall.. yet I can still use that short area for things like a snow blower.. I found out ridin mowers do fit nicely under the short roof area too.. I also have lumber stored under it.. (more Red Pine)

the original barn had 6 x 8 posts holdin up the loft area.. there was 2 x 12's fastened to the posts that held up the roof's of the sides.. the end walls were 8 foot tall..

on edit.. I should still have the plans to my barn.. we had blue prints made of every board in it..

FordTractors · Oct 20, 2016

Whirly said:
I scaled down a barn that I tore down.. it was 40 x 60 & 36 feet tall to the upper peak.. the center part had hay storage in it over a loft area.. I used a 1-3 scale so divide all measurements by 3.. I wanted mine to look exactly like the big barn.. since I built it I aquired a cupola that looks somewhat like the one on the top.. I have yet to get it up.. the original barn was built in the early 30's.. it had ceder shingles.. in the 50's or the 60's tin was put on the lower roofs.. the top got tin in the early 90's.. some other guy got the tin from the barn without permission to remove it from the lower roof's.. there was still bales of straw stored in it then that were sold.. there was just enuf of that tin left behind so I could have a tin roof on my barn.. that tin was some of the early tin made... it has a funny shape on the bends..

on my barn I made double opening doors under the loft area.. (hinged on oppisite sides) they don't show up when closed.. inside there is no post to hold up the loft area.. this is held up by the front & rear walls.. my walls on the ends r only 32 inches tall.. yet I can still use that short area for things like a snow blower.. I found out ridin mowers do fit nicely under the short roof area too.. I also have lumber stored under it.. (more Red Pine)

the original barn had 6 x 8 posts holdin up the loft area.. there was 2 x 12's fastened to the posts that held up the roof's of the sides.. the end walls were 8 foot tall..

on edit.. I should still have the plans to my barn.. we had blue prints made of every board in it..

Thank you very much. You gave me some great information. That is what I want to build and am in the early planning process.

Gary

Canary Al · Oct 20, 2016

Whirly said:
my avatar pic is a storage shed I built in '06'.. a guy in my former work place draftin dep't made a set of prints of every board in it.. all I had to do was cut all the angles the same.. the buildin is 14 x 20 (front) & 12 tall.. (I scaled the original barn I tore down)

now the interestin thing is I used recycled lumber from that barn.. I brought home 2 x 6's that were 22 1/2 feet long after I cut them down with a chain saw.. that lumber was Minnesota Red Pine.. (the lumber Paul Bunion & Babe the Blue Ox cut..) at the end of the framing I bought 8 brand new 2 x 4's 8 foot long for the project..

there is no posts in the middle of the shed.. the upper part is held up by the front & back walls..

I've long admired the barn in your avatar Whirly. If ever. . . . I want that look.

Following your work Gary. Looking forward to seeing it happen. :goodl:

Al

Newsman · Oct 20, 2016

Neat looking design and great work by you and your sons and sil. How does you schedule look? Do you think you will be able to get it covered before winter sets in? Looking good.
MikeC

ShootinOK · Oct 20, 2016

Newsman said:
Neat looking design and great work by you and your sons and sil. How does you schedule look? Do you think you will be able to get it covered before winter sets in? Looking good.
MikeC

I'm hoping so Newsman.
We have a pretty mild winter here. The real cold with snow and ice usually holds off until the new year; Even as late as Feb and March.
Happy to be into the fall now as the temps make for nicer work than those 100deg days.

Still, know it won't be a fast build. I haven't been able to get home before dark all week. - Hoping for a good weekend -- maybe :tango_face_smile:

Whirly · Oct 20, 2016

Canary Al said:
I've long admired the barn in your avatar Whirly. If ever. . . . I want that look.

Following your work Gary. Looking forward to seeing it happen. :goodl:

Al

Al.. OOOHHH .. ur comment makes me real proud.. it took me half the the summer to complete it.. now the only drawback to the design is the 32 inch tall walls on the ends.. I used that area for wood storage.. wood I plan on usin to make stuff for our home.. like an entertainment center for the TV & stuff.. that wood is Minnesota Red Pine.. it is heavier that standard pine we get today.. almost looks like oak..

I made a plack mount for a set of 'bull horns' from it already..

Canary Al · Oct 20, 2016

Makes perfect sense to me Whirly. I am a re-purpose guy too.

ShootinOK · Oct 20, 2016

Ok -- So I'm a little slow here... that Whirly barn is like a mini barn?!
When you said the height was 12' I envisioned 12' at the top plate. Now I get it!

That's really Cool!
And I am definitely a re-purpose guy too. Some of that will show up as the build progresses.

Canary Al · Oct 20, 2016

I wonder if Whirly did a thread or some type of documentation while building that? Sure would like to see that. Al

Newsman · Oct 20, 2016

ShootinOK said:
We have a pretty mild winter here. The real cold with snow and ice usually holds off until the new year; Even as late as Feb and March.
Happy to be into the fall now as the temps make for nicer work than those 100deg days.

Still, know it won't be a fast build. I haven't been able to get home before dark all week. - Hoping for a good weekend -- maybe :tango_face_smile:

That's good to know. Yup, agree about working in the Fall, but here in the NE it does sort of make you rush to beat the cold. As far as a fast build, slow is good, long as you post lots of pics. It'll make all the cold folks in the places where winter doesn't hold off, envious as all get out!:sidelaugh
MikeC

Whirly · Oct 20, 2016

Canary Al said:
I wonder if Whirly did a thread or some type of documentation while building that? Sure would like to see that. Al

that barn was built in '06'.. I joined MTF in '09' I think.. thus no tread.. BUT I will go out & take more pics of it & the inside too.. put them in a tread too.. will post the link to tread in here..

here is the new tread..

http://www.mytractorforum.com/52-wo...om/52-workshops-garage-shed-discussions/1063065-hay-barn-shed.html#post10076729

Canary Al · Oct 20, 2016

I would be interested and entertained by that Whirly.

Gary: Don't mean to be hijacking your thread here especially since I have not made your acquaintance up to now.

I found your thread due to the new look side bar. I keep mostly to my main interest on here - Gravely forum.

I am almost finished with a work shed/shop I have been building to contain my Gravely habit. I think when I do finish I may post about it in this section.

Here's a pic i took on a country road up in Maine a few yrs back when I was wishing to get on building a Barn at my property in VT.

It will fill in why I was interested in your thread and have noted Whirly's avatar for some time. I would love to have this.

Whirly · Oct 20, 2016

Al.. see my edit I made in last postin..

FordTractors · Oct 21, 2016

This was my dream barn to build, an old fashioned board and batten. Second floor for hay. Took me over a year. It is all rough sawn wood. The inside is a little modern. Built by myself except for the modern trusses that I needed help to get up, so that work was hired out. I bought a power nailer for this since I am old. There are almost 3 boxes of nails in it. That would be 12,000! Like this thread and all comments are welcome, I to am not trying to hijack the thread. Really like that barn in the avatar though.

Whirly · Oct 21, 2016

FordTractors said:
This was my dream barn to build, an old fashioned board and batten. Second floor for hay. Took me over a year. It is all rough sawn wood. The inside is a little modern. Built by myself except for the modern trusses that I needed help to get up, so that work was hired out. I bought a power nailer for this since I am old. There are almost 3 boxes of nails in it. That would be 12,000! Like this thread and all comments are welcome, I to am not trying to hijack the thread. Really like that barn in the avatar though.

OMG.. another worshiper .. I did start a new tread for it.. to keep from hijackin this one..

http://www.mytractorforum.com/52-workshops-garage-shed-discussions/1063065-hay-barn-shed.html

ShootinOK · Oct 25, 2016

FordTractors said:
This was my dream barn to build, an old fashioned board and batten. Second floor for hay. Took me over a year. It is all rough sawn wood. The inside is a little modern. Built by myself except for the modern trusses that I needed help to get up, so that work was hired out. I bought a power nailer for this since I am old. There are almost 3 boxes of nails in it. That would be 12,000! Like this thread and all comments are welcome, I to am not trying to hijack the thread. Really like that barn in the avatar though.

Great looking barn Mr. FordTractors!!
I love the board and batten look - intend to go that route also. Hoping to find a good price on cement board siding and run it vertical. I will sheath the walls first for rigidity.
I really like the wood look, but matching the house in color is important to my architectural review committee (Wife) So mine will be painted.

ShootinOK · Oct 25, 2016

A really good weekend for PROGRESS !!
Saturday I added hurricane straps to the trusses. Started the lean-to rafters and got the walk door set.

This was the first plan modification as I had found two doors a few months ago and was so excited about the price I snatched both up for $60 each.
Pre-hung steel doors and frames. One side of the doors are not skinned so the end user can put whatever finish on them they want. I intended to put that side out and use the barn siding with two X's on it to look like a barn door. Well... My plan was to have one walk door on the south side and a sliding door in the middle of that side. Only the large overhead door on the east side. Problem is - the door is 8' tall. My top plate on the south side is 8'.....:fing20:

I moved the door around to the east side, and I think it'll be OK there.

Also had to put the flat steel side out so the swing would work in that location. Still OK with that, I'll just paint it white.
Got this approved by the Architectural Review Committee (Wife) too.

ShootinOK · Oct 25, 2016

Saturday I also finished drilling and installing the bolts through all the posts at the bases.
I wanted to feel a little better about the top plates that are just face nailed on the columns. One side is notched in, but the other is attached on the face with nails.
I installed these Big ring shank suckers, sold as "pole barn nails".

What they should be called is "big ugly bending %$#@"

Man... You really have to hold your mouth just right to get those in without them bending. The start of the ring shank deformation must cause a weekend spot because they bend there if you look at them wrong. -- Then try to get 'em out !:tango_face_surprise

ShootinOK · Oct 25, 2016

The boys came back over on Sunday and we finished the Trusses :thThumbsU

Whirly · Oct 25, 2016

ShootinOK said:
Saturday I also finished drilling and installing the bolts through all the posts at the bases.
I wanted to feel a little better about the top plates that are just face nailed on the columns. One side is notched in, but the other is attached on the face with nails.
I installed these Big ring shank suckers, sold as "pole barn nails".

What they should be called is "big ugly bending %$#@"

Man... You really have to hold your mouth just right to get those in without them bending. The start of the ring shank deformation must cause a weekend spot because they bend there if you look at them wrong. -- Then try to get 'em out !:tango_face_surprise

ya on removin one .. that farm that had the haybarn I tore down had other buildings on it too.. I removed about 400 sheets of tin roofin that was put on with the lead headed one like ur's.. sometimes I had rockets flying upward when they turned loose of the wood.. one took a notch out of my hat bill.. never moved my hat any.. that was a close call for my nose..

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