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x728/x748 (4WD/AWD) traction question

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Just seeking opinions on the traction of the awd GT's with the HDAP tires in non mowing chores. I am leaning towards a x728 (at least today:D). I have already been assigned a small project for next year, building a flat stone walkway. I have hauled the stone, in the past, from the creek at the back of our property. I use a wheelbarrow...UGH! The creek is down a STEEP old hard pack gravel road, with just a couple ruts, total length is maybe 400'. With the turfs, and the low tree branches, I don't dare take the 2320 down there. One of my neighbors says I am nuts for NOT using the 2320, he is familiar with the road and thinks the 2320 would be fine, and he owns a Kubota L4630 and a B7510 so he is also familiar with tractors and their abilities. But the x7's more compact size and HDAP tires, makes me wonder. I would be using a 10cu.ft. poly cart, and I wouldn't be putting a ton in it. But, properly ballasted, would a x7x8 be up to the task, or am I nuts? I know these machines aren't 4 wheelers, but... Thanks for continuing to humor me on this whole x7 quest!
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Always careful to suppose how something would work for a described project, but I am very happy with the traction my x728 demonstrates with the HDAP tires. Not sure about you, but last winter was one of our biggest snow winters in my memory, certainly most snow since I've lived and plowed here (25 years). I had no problems. Late last fall I cleared some dead and dying oak trees and one very large poplar. I cut most of these into 8-10' sections, between 30-50" across and drug them into the woods for a better time to tackle final cutting, splitting and stacking. My tractor was making new paths while pulling logs I had trouble rolling with a Peavey. (That's me and my assistant in my profile picture, standing beside one tree worth after I consolidated them in the woods and out of the way) I think you'll be surprised at what you can pull. That said, make sure you load your trailer so that its tires are still floating on your path surface and not sinking in.

And for the entertainment of the rest of us here, take some pictures!
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Load some weight on the front of that 2320 and pull. Seriously, you'd have to post some pics of this hill to give us an idea of what your tackling, but personally I don't see the point in buying another tractor. I would put the FEL on your 2320, fill it and the cart with gravel and let it climb!
Yes, pics, I'll have to add that to my to do list. Trust me, the new tractor is not just for this project. Its a long story that I have talked about in other posts.
Thanks guys.:fing32:
Changed your mine on the X720:sidelaugh I think you should stay with your 2320 one more year then look at a X700 series tractor.:thThumbsU
I can't give you a yes or no answer on this.. But the 4WD 700 series don't want for anything in the torque and traction department. Still, if I am going up hills, I'd have four JD suitcases on front, they sit fairly low and more weight down low on the front is never a bad thing!
My x728 with HDAP has much better traction then my dads 2305 R4s in snow and dirt. A lot of the difference is the amount of flex the x728 frame has. The 2305s is so much stiffer.
My X749 pulls our 2,400 pound chipper anywhere we want to take it in the woods, mud etc. As for grades, I have yet to see this tractor spin.

I have a 700 Brute Force Kawasaki, the X749 will blow it's doors off with pulling power.

We mow grades where people shake their heads as they can't believe where this thing will go, all I can say is to would have to try it to believe it.
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My old X585SE would pull like a tank in both 2wd and 4wd and it had the HDAP's. Puling your 10P cart isn't a problem up a very steep incline. slkpk
I pulled a box blade dug into the soil, up a steep hill last week. It will pull. I DEFINATELY recommend front weights. Hard to turn with the front wheels off the ground.
I haven't found anywhere my x748 won't go....yet. I haven't had it in the snow yet, but on dry ground it seems unstoppable.
I haven't found anywhere my x748 won't go....yet. I haven't had it in the snow yet, but on dry ground it seems unstoppable.
You'll have fun in the snow with it. I know I sure did :fing32: slkpk
Heres a video from this spring with the x728, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2FMybo1TbQ&feature=related it never spun a wheel even in virgin sod, it never lugged down, it has the HDAP (heavy duty all purpose)Carlisle HD Field Trax.

Front 18x8.50-10nhs

Back 26x12.00-12nhs

Rob
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It also doesn't spin the tires blowing snow, and we have never used the traction lock button on the floor board, either snow blowing or rototilling.

If you look close at the tread marks on the driveway http://www.1969supersport.com/02tractor3.html you can see it doesn't spin, just point it and it goes.

When I dropped the 47'' John Deere tiller into virgin soil, I thought the tractor would lurch a little bit like my Troy Horse tiller would do, you couldn't even tell it was tilling, I just dropped her down the full depth I wanted and never adjusted it since.

I always run my mowers and tillers wide open, and that Kawasaki twin doesn't even grunt when the tiller engages, it just goes.

One other thing I could mention, with the weight of the hard cab when I'm driving around my back yard it rides like a limo, and my LT155 mower will bounce all over the place, my back yard is pretty rough.

To say we like this x728, thats an understatement, we are so happy we have it.

My wife is 67 and I'm 68 and we can't wait for this winter, with the heated cab and blower, aw never mind.:)

Rob
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Question ColonyPark, you have a diesel, why not another one (x748)?

Rob
Question ColonyPark, you have a diesel, why not another one (x748)?

Rob
Thanks for the comments Rob, have always enjoyed your posts, pics, and vids.

Well, I guess it would boil down to the amount of hours I put on it, and trying to buy only what I absolutely need, and trying to keep costs down. I have nothing against the diesel. It is a bit more inconvenient to get fuel because the closest stations to me don't sell it, so I need to plan ahead. Also, I only put about 50 hours/year on (almost exclusively mowing and snow blowing), half of what I figured (just too busy to use it!). So with that, I would rather have the 4wd. Funny thing is, is that 3 years ago when I was upgrading from a GX345, I almost bought a x748, but we thought the 2320 (2305 was too rough of a ride) would let us be self sufficient and not have to hire out or depend on neighbors for a few chores. We never figured on the lives of 2 full time working parents raising 5 and 7 y/o active boys wouldn't allow us the time to have huge gardens, mow 4 acres of field several times a year, complete big landscaping projects other than those just immediately next to the house! I am waving the white flag, and have shrunk the garden to six raised beds and a 25'x40' plot, and have given up on the field, just more important things to do than making sure the field gets cut! Hind Sight is 20/20.:fing20:
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Thanks for the comments Rob, have always enjoyed your posts, pics, and vids.

Well, I guess it would boil down to the amount of hours I put on it, and trying to buy only what I absolutely need, and trying to keep costs down. I have nothing against the diesel. It is a bit more inconvenient to get fuel because the closest stations to me don't sell it, so I need to plan ahead. Also, I only put about 50 hours/year on (almost exclusively mowing and snow blowing), half of what I figured (just too busy to use it!). So with that, I would rather have the 4wd. Funny thing is, is that 3 years ago when I was upgrading from a GX345, I almost bought a x748, but we thought the 2320 (2305 was too rough of a ride) would let us be self sufficient and not have to hire out or depend on neighbors for a few chores. We never figured on the lives of 2 full time working parents raising 5 and 7 y/o active boys wouldn't allow us the time to have huge gardens, mow 4 acres of field several times a year, complete big landscaping projects other than those just immediately next to the house! I am waving the white flag, and have shrunk the garden to six raised beds and a 25'x40' plot, and have given up on the field, just more important things to do than making sure the field gets cut! Hind Sight is 20/20.:fing20:
CP,

If you can forgive a non-tractor related comment, I'll just mention that you are at a stage with your kids when you are really in the "thick of it". It may be hard to imagine, but in just a few years the situation will be very different. The kids quickly get more self-sufficient, and require a lot less close supervision as they approach the adolescent age. Suddenly, unexpectedly, you find you have more time to tackle projects again.

And often the kids want to get involved too. Before you know it, your older son will be able to handle mowing most of that acreage.

All this from a guy who is about 7 years ahead of you. The things we do today were inconceivable when our kids were the age of yours.

Anyway, 2320 or X700-series -- either way you can do a lot with both machines.
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Thanks for the kind words, and I know you are absolutely correct. My dad wasn't around much when I was a kid (parents divorced), actually almost never. I just don't want to tie myself down with chores, I want to be ready for anything (within reason) the boys want to do or be involved in, activity or hobby wise. So, I feel the need to simplify, and saving some $$$ on a monthly payment, which I make as I am not made out of $$$, sounds sweet. Especially with the economy still lagging, here at least. Work is looking slow this winter!
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CP,

If you can forgive a non-tractor related comment, I'll just mention that you are at a stage with your kids when you are really in the "thick of it". It may be hard to imagine, but in just a few years the situation will be very different. The kids quickly get more self-sufficient, and require a lot less close supervision as they approach the adolescent age. Suddenly, unexpectedly, you find you have more time to tackle projects again.

And often the kids want to get involved too. Before you know it, your older son will be able to handle mowing most of that acreage.

All this from a guy who is about 7 years ahead of you. The things we do today were inconceivable when our kids were the age of yours.

Anyway, 2320 or X700-series -- either way you can do a lot with both machines.
UrbanTractor , very well said ... :fing32:

Later,x595
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Absolutely enjoy your family, you will always have those memories, whereas, it may be that you will forget your lawn mowing fun.
On the other hand, think of your investment in a JD, especially one of the x7x8 series as a tool for getting that lawn work finished quicker so that you can get back to the kids.

Soon enough, faster than you can imagine now, you'll be working on your own again, and glad you have a machine that will work with you. My two are grown and moved away. I just gave away my daughter at her wedding last month. And now I find myself back in my lawn or surrounding woods. I have very few pictures of with me in them as I am the only one around to snap the photos, but here is my x728 mid-drag moving some very large poplar logs off my lawn and into the woods where they will stay till I get around to finish cutting and splitting.

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