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I'm all the time over at the round table discussing the advantages of the Simplicity brand.
I would like to start this thread in hopes that it will become a sticky. The Idea being that any new comer and/or anyone thinking of purchasing a Simplicity would have a thread that shows the advantages of the brand.
So lots of Pictures of lawn stripping, snow throwing, tilling etc. with a description of the type of tractor, year etc. And anything that is relevant to the Brand.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that all of Simplicity's manuals, parts and operation manuals are FREE and can be downloaded from here http://www.simplicitymfg.com/manuals/
 

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I grew up riding my Dad's Allis Chalmers ( made by simplicity) HB212 hydro 42" cut tractor. That thing was built heavy, ran great, and was the best cutting tractor I've ever used. It laid beuatiful stripe marks and with the 3 blades, it could cut down 18-24" tall grass in the field and still leave it beautiful. His 3 blade Craftsman II leaves some uncut grass if it's too tall. Unfortunately years back we ran it on a hill with low oil and did the motor in or we would still be using it. Hope to pull it out and restore some day to it's former glory.
 

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Best cut; smooth and even unlike any other tractor or zero tun on the market.

Stripes as well, solidly built long running American Success story. They do use quality foreign parts as well, I have a Kawasaki engine and Shibaura front transaxel.

They are strong and well designed leave lots of options and are very compact, there is bigger but there is not better.:trink40:
 

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I have a 12.5LTH that I saved from the scrap metal yard. I just got started messing with yard tractors at the end of last year and so far I have picked up several JD L 100 series, a Cub 2146 and the Simp and these are my observations so far as I have just had the Simp running for about 3 weeks.

The hydros on the Cub and the Simp are huge compared to the JD's. The Cub had a spin on oil filter which is a plus imo. The Simp tranny whines a pretty good bit but seems to work fine.

The Briggs Vanguard seems like a much nicer motor than the Intek Briggs. I like the vee twins over the singles.

The Simp hand lever speed control is weird. My yard is chopped up into small plots and the Simp is probably better suited to a bigger yard where you don't stop and start constantly. I also have been running the Cub and some of the JD's and the foot pedal is more natural for me. I do like running the Simp for the novelty of it but I am going to knock something down eventually :)

The Cub is the most enjoyable to drive. The steering is particularly nice. The Simp is ok but seems a little stiff at low speed. The JD's are ok, just not as satisfying as the Cub.

The Cub's horizontal shaft upright motor seems to transmit some vibration or harshness through the frame. The Simp and JD's vertical shaft motors don't seem to have this harshness as the frame is better able to absorb the torque instead of twisting the frame like the horizontal shaft does.

The Simp and the Cub have much higher quality decks. The JD L100 42" The Edge decks will all eventually crack where the lh mounting bracket is welded to the deck body.

Overall the Simp and the Cub are obviously better engineered but both were also a more expensive upscale unit when new. The JD's are made to a price point and any corner that could be cut was. Like the paint. There is NO metal prep done on the fenders or deck before they have their outer coat applied.

There is no dealer support within 50+ miles for the Simp. There are a couple of 'Simplicity Dealers' but the one I talked to doesn't even carry deck rollers in stock so I made my own on my lathe. The best JD dealer is about 15 miles away and they have most parts in stock and are pleasant to deal with. The Cub dealer is closer but less pleasant.

I have already sold the Cub and will probably sell all the JDs [ 3 left ] and keep the Simp and the Honda rer we have had since 1995. The wife has already said she will never drive the Simp because of the hand lever. She has no issues with the JD's or the Cub or the Honda.

Oh yeah, the Honda is a manual tranny and all these others are hydros. I never knew what I was missing !!
 

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between my JD 318 (22hp honda) and Allis 2020LC Kawa LQ 20hp.. The simplicity (allis) does a far better mowing job then the JD. Hands down. Comes to snowblowing they are about the same. JD will throw snow a bit farther.
 

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This is what my lawn looked like after the first mowing this year.

....and this is what did it. $100.00 plus fresh fluids, fuel pump rebuild, main drive belt, and some sweat equity.
 

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I have a 2009 Simplicity Regent. I'm certainly not a tractor guy, but I have learned a lot about all kinds of different LT's over the last several years. Among the most important thing that I've learned is that nothing combines reliability and cut like a Simplicity. I have absolutely no complaints about this tractor.

The 22HP OHV ELS Briggs engine has been great so far. It is fairly quiet, as quiet as a 22HP engine can be, and is easy to maintain. The oil filter is easily accessible along with the plugs and air filter. I mow a very level .65 acres every 3 days from mid-April through mid-November in the middle of suburbia. In addition, I have pulled carts of mulch and fire wood with ease. Although I certainly wouldn't not do this on a regular basis, the engine doesn't hesitate when pulling the load. Personally, I think it uses more gas than it should, compared to my older 14.5 HP Kohler Command engine in my previous 1999 Craftsman, however, that isn't exactly fair. I estimate I fill up my 5 gallon gas can every 10 hours.

The hanging deck is what sets this tractor a part from the competition. The cut that is produced is second to none. It is perfectly even and striped like a ball park. Gotta love that look! I can remove/install it in 3 minutes or less. That makes maintenance very easy. The only maintenance that I've done is grease the spindles and scrape (and sometimes carefully power wash) underneath every 10 - 14 days. I also bought the mulching kit and Gator Blades. The grass is cut so fine that I can't see any clippings on the lawn. No need for a bagger. However, this is the reason why the deck needs to be cleaned. There are several spots under the deck where grass builds up or simply adheres to the steel. This creates a high rust potential. To combat this, I spray silicone underneath every time I clean it. The deck also has an infinite number of settings in terms of height. I can go as low as 1.5" to as high as 4". I love that I can just turn the handle and adjust the height very easily in any increment I like.

It is a medium duty tractor, comparable to any of the JD X300's. The frame is made of 12 gauge steel, very typical. The tranny is a TT K-46HD. Not sure what the HD means, however, I've done some research and written several emails to TT. As far as I can tell, the HD is simply marketing, it means absolutely nothing. I have read a lot of complaints about the K-46, personally I haven't had any problems with it, however, I only mow and pull a light cart every now and then. I think that if it was pushed to do more ground engaging activities, it would whine. The design of the tractor also enables it to have a tight 14" turning radius. I love that I can cut around all of my flower beds and other obstacles easily.

I love the looks of the tractor. The 20" turf wheels make for a nice look, but are also very functional. Although, because of the turf type design, they tend to spin on wet grass while turning tightly. The 15" front wheels are fine, but tend to wear a bit easily. I have just over 100 hours on them and the tread is a bit worn. I'm told it's typical wear though. The seat is very comfortable and easily adjustable. Combine that with the pivoting front end and the ride is pretty smooth, for a lawn tractor. Finally, Simplicity Orange isn't for everyone, but I personally love it. Can't say the same for my wife.

So, why purchase a Simplicity? Someone purchases a Simplicity if they want a combination of reliability and performance. Remember, the main goal of any lawn tractor is to produce a great looking lawn, and nothing beats a Simplicity at that. Throw in the fact that this tractor should last 20+ years easily, and it is also a great value.



 

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Not sure if you guys can see it in the photos, but I hate to tell you that your Simplicity mowers are leaving big stripes in your lawns. Is that a problem with all Simplicity mowers?


:D:D:D:D:D:D: Just teasing! They do make a very nice cut, and you guys have beautiful lawns.
 

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Smolinsky7, Sounds like you're burning 1/2 gal/hour. My Conquest, turning a 54" deck in pretty thick grass, burns about 1 gal/hour. The Vanguard does run pretty lean, though, since in cold weather I have to run the choke on about halfway or it surges. Been that way since new, it's no problem.

I agree, the cut is great, the reliability is great. 285 hours on mine, and everything still works like new. No slop in the steering or any of the linkages, and the deck rollers are still in fine shape. I work this machine pretty hard sometimes, cutting overgrown areas, and it doesn't complain. (Especially since I have found out where all the rocks are…) This has been one of the best purchases I have made.
 

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The thought put into the operators position on the tractor is one of the things I like. All my controls are located with in easy reach. From the steering wheel to the foot clutch and pto engage ment. Now minds a 1983 and I'm sure its been refined. I did relocate the electric lift swith to the side of the seat, so I wouls beable to adjust the thrower ht. On the move.
 
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