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I was just curious as to why everyone else decided to go with a Massey Ferguson SCUT. I decided on my GC 1710 TLB for these reasons:

Performance - I did a lot of research on specs and watched tons of videos online to help determine capability

Value - Competitively priced compared to some other brands

Dealer - The dealer I purchased through has been really great. I have bought some other things and had some service work done there. Very knowledgeable, family owned and operated, honest.
 

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I have several reasons.

- My favourite colour is red.

- Since I was a kid, most of the tractors that I saw on area farms were Massey Fergusons. I may be a city boy, but there have always been farms inside the city limits here, and you can't go east from here without passing by a multitude of farms.

- I was very happy with my two very different MF GTs and their performance over the 30 years that I used and learned from.

- I preferred the ergonomics of the GC over the comparable offerings of JD and Kubota.

- Dealer is not a critical reason. The nearest MF dealer is over 30 miles away in a foreign country. While I have a long (43 year) and happy history with the owner, I rarely see or do business with him, other than for MF specific parts. He's always done right by me and I do try to steer business in his direction.

- Performance. While the GC is adequate for my needs, I figured going in that I would have less performance on several fronts with the GC than I had with my GT, and some substantial improvement in capability on other fronts. A thousand hours of operating use has proven that I was correct in my suppositions. According to the listed specs on the various brands of comparable SCUTs, the GC shows a slightly greater capability for some operations. Not really enough to force a decision, but a higher base line is always easier to work with.

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For me it was value (and I like red). I actually started out wanting a Deere but when I walked around the Deere dealership, it was like I wasn't even there. I felt like my money was no good there or they didn't take me seriously. Then I went down to the Kubota dealer where, while they talked to me, it felt like they thought they were doing me a favor in doing so. I must have that "I have no money" look about me. I felt the Kubota was priced way too high for what you got and I am not a fan of the treddle peddle. I know people who love it and that's great but it's not for me. I tried to look at the New Holland but they were never open when I got up there. So I ended up at the Massey dealer. At the time he sold both Massey and Mahindra so I was able to do a side by side. While the Mahindra was more capable, it was also more expensive. I talked to the dealer about both and he said that both were good machines but he has reservations about the longevity of the Mahindra. This only came from the fact that he hadn't sold them for very long and he was more familiar with the Massey. Besides, I think the Massey is about the best looking SCUT out there in my opinion. So, I bought the GC1705 along with a 5' power angle blade from him. Busy guy but will take the time with you. Great to deal with. Anyway, 5 years later I took my 1705 back and traded up to a GC1720 TLB from the same dealer. I looked around again but not for long because I was able to keep my snow blade and use it on the new tractor so...
Price (value)
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We now have a Rural King in the area so I looked at those too. Basically the smaller tractors at RK are actually rebadged Mahindra tractors (which I also learned that the small Mahindra tractors are actually rebadged TYM tractors) at a much better price but I still kept with Massey.
 

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At the time, they had the best price and financing.
The Massey dealer is only a few miles from home.
 

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We now have a Rural King in the area so I looked at those too. Basically the smaller tractors at RK are actually rebadged Mahindra tractors (which I also learned that the small Mahindra tractors are actually rebadged TYM tractors) at a much better price but I still kept with Massey.
I took a close look at the RKs and watched lots of videos as well. They seem to be very capable machines. Although they are made by TYM, I was concerned about the continuation of the brand. What if RK decides to get out of the tractor business? Plus, fit and finish just does not measure up to the Massey.
 

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We bought a SCUT for snow removal, moving up from a huge walk behind to a front mount blower on a small tractor. Other than farm tractors in my early adult years - many years past - I knew little about tractors and diesels. We started researching. It took months as we were in no hurry and wanted to do it right. We started with Kubota. We loved it. We checked out John Deere, nice tractor. We then looked at Kioti. Very nice tractor and a great small town dealer to deal with. Massey Ferguson was our last stop. I do know snowblowers, having lived here at our home in the Sierra Nevada for 30 years. I did not like the Kioti blower as I would have needed to retro fit a cutting bar. Kioti was out. The Deere blower was good, except I had reservations about the hard plastic impeller - there is a steel one available if I wanted to replace it. The Kubota and Massey Ferguson front blowers are made at the same factory and are excellent. It came down, for us, a decision between Kubota and Massey because of the snowblower. We liked the feel of the Massey a bit better so it went to the top of the list. We also felt it was easier to service and work on because the open hood offered easy access to the engine.

I should add that watching YouTube videos of the different snowblowers in action in various snow conditions helped greatly with confirming we'd get a good blower.

We are quite happy with "Little Red" as the wife named it.


 

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I needed a tractor with a front loader before winter to do some dirt work around my house.

I went to tractor house and set the filter to

$7500 Max

Front loader

It was the newest within 50 miles with a front loader. I knew very little about Massey.

It had 500ish hours. Paid $7500. GC2400.

now that I have one it would be my first choice even over Kubota.
 

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We now have a Rural King in the area so I looked at those too. Basically the smaller tractors at RK are actually rebadged Mahindra tractors (which I also learned that the small Mahindra tractors are actually rebadged TYM tractors) at a much better price but I still kept with Massey.
I took a close look at the RKs and watched lots of videos as well. They seem to be very capable machines. Although they are made by TYM, I was concerned about the continuation of the brand. What if RK decides to get out of the tractor business? Plus, fit and finish just does not measure up to the Massey.
Japanese (Massey) vs Chinese (TYM, Mahindra)

I would buy a Kioti before I would buy a Mahindra I believe. Mostly based on, I've never heard anyone complain about their Kioti.
 

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Kubota and Massey made the short list, the MF won primarily for the larger BH bucket (daylighting the basement was on the agenda) with the tiny little lcd tach and the foot pedals also weighing in.
 

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It was the price and the dealer that really sold it for me. There are a few other reasons, though. I didn't care for the treadle on the Kubota, but I'm sure I could have gotten used to it. I couldn't find any bad reviews on the Massey. There were only a couple on the Kubota and a few more on the Deeres. And, I also like the red paint.
 

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I just bought mine (GC2410) but carefully researched all the brands over 18-24 mo. My needs are mostly landscaping, materials handling and snow-removal. Ruled out the following early:
Mahindra - poor reviews after ownership
Kioti - not well enough known in these parts..
LS, Yanmar, etc - not sold/supported in Canada
JD - $$$$

That leaves Kubota and Massey. Went deep on the Kubota and then the Massey. Ultimately, the Massey won on the following:
BH: larger bucket, better leveler pads, float feature, operator ergonomics
Loader: dual tipper hyd/cyl
hydro pedals, 3-pt hitch hardware included, engine access, better revs/power ratio

To be sure there were areas the Kubota won (attachment price, hello!) but the above was enough for me.
 

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LS is sold and supported in Canada, just maybe not in your area. We have a local dealer here, about 5 miles from my home. The dealer for my GC is 32 miles away in Michigan. The nearest one in Canada is almost 250 miles down the trail.
 

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Pretty amazing thread..
I am seriously looking at a new GC1725MB and ran across this thread. Funny how that works out. I cannot say I am surprised by the consensus (?) here if there is one. The dealer network seems to be fairly well established and the value also pretty high on the list of reasons to own one. My main concerns are for reliability and service after the sale. Are any of those who have them despairing due to it being the wrong color or other concerns? The JD dealer isn't nearly as handy to get to, same with Kubota. I liked the New Hollands but the dealers don't seem too interested in making a sale. LS, Mahindra and Kioti when compared to the others didn't really do it for me so it is between a JD and MF for now. I am looking for reasons why one would be a better deal over the other brand.
 

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Pretty amazing thread..
I am seriously looking at a new GC1725MB and ran across this thread. Funny how that works out. I cannot say I am surprised by the consensus (?) here if there is one. The dealer network seems to be fairly well established and the value also pretty high on the list of reasons to own one. My main concerns are for reliability and service after the sale. Are any of those who have them despairing due to it being the wrong color or other concerns? The JD dealer isn't nearly as handy to get to, same with Kubota. I liked the New Hollands but the dealers don't seem too interested in making a sale. LS, Mahindra and Kioti when compared to the others didn't really do it for me so it is between a JD and MF for now. I am looking for reasons why one would be a better deal over the other brand.
COST.
 

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Interesting. I asked and you answered.
Cost is important. Not the most important thing but definitely important. In the ensuing time since I asked this I have pretty much eliminated the JD offering. They were on the far northern end of the spectrum for comparable tractors. I am still really wanting the MF brand. The dealer would rather sell outright than work a trade. I really don't need two tractors and also not keen on the idea of trying to market my current tractor. I will talk to him again when I go home for a break.
 

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Interesting. I asked and you answered.
Cost is important. Not the most important thing but definitely important. In the ensuing time since I asked this I have pretty much eliminated the JD offering. They were on the far northern end of the spectrum for comparable tractors. I am still really wanting the MF brand. The dealer would rather sell outright than work a trade. I really don't need two tractors and also not keen on the idea of trying to market my current tractor. I will talk to him again when I go home for a break.
From my research, the SCUT market is very competitive with many companies making great units. There are lots of factors to consider when making your choice. When I physically went to look at several different brands (Mahindra, RK, JD, Kubota), I found all of them to have similar capabilities. I honestly don't think there is a "bad" choice out there. So many good machines - they have to be to stay competitive. My final choice came down to my preferences on options, value (or cost), and dealer - my MF dealer is really great.

I'm not sure what you are looking to trade in, but in my area, used SCUTs that go up for sale usually sell fairly quickly.
 

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From my research, the SCUT market is very competitive with many companies making great units. There are lots of factors to consider when making your choice. When I physically went to look at several different brands (Mahindra, RK, JD, Kubota), I found all of them to have similar capabilities. I honestly don't think there is a "bad" choice out there. So many good machines - they have to be to stay competitive. My final choice came down to my preferences on options, value (or cost), and dealer - my MF dealer is really great.

I'm not sure what you are looking to trade in, but in my area, used SCUTs that go up for sale usually sell fairly quickly.
I completely agree with your assessment of all the SCUT made in the last few decades. All have been good in their own way but some just had different features. Particularly in the last ten years or so, they have improved to be nothing less then smaller tractors capable of a days work. None are bad that I can see. My points for making a choice in brands are the same as yours. The dealer and options are probably the most important things I look for. The MF dealer is the closest to my home and is also a long time dealer for the brand. I currently have a Cub Cadet/Yanmar SC2450 that I bought new. It's been a good tractor but there are some new functions I would like to have. As I plan to retire soon, I also plan to be spending a lot more time on my tractor. I work away from home most of the time. My retirement plans include spending a lot of time driving around my little farm instead of driving a computer in an office.
 
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