[Indy452]

I asked Don from Don's synthetic lubes a MTF advertiser about the use of seafoam mixed with my Amsoil 100:1 gas mix and he told me it was safe but wanted to recommend Amsoils "quickshot". Has anyone tried this product in their lawnmower or other small engine? If so what did you think?

After reading the literature from this page linked below It seems that this company has a good idea about whats in the fuel nowdays.

I'm a big believer in using seafoam and believe many of my machines long life is a direct cause from using it. So....ounce per ounce this stuff looks to cost a bit more but I'm not sure how much you can use in twocycle oils per gallon but if its anything like Sabre its probably not much as Seafoam is used 2oz per gallon in mix fuels.

What are your thoughts?

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/aqs.aspx

 

[GTP]

I asked Don from Don's synthetic lubes a MTF advertiser about the use of seafoam mixed with my Amsoil 100:1 gas mix and he told me it was safe but wanted to recommend Amsoils "quickshot". Has anyone tried this product in their lawnmower or other small engine? If so what did you think?

After reading the literature from this page linked below It seems that this company has a good idea about whats in the fuel nowdays.

I'm a big believer in using seafoam and believe many of my machines long life is a direct cause from using it. So....ounce per ounce this stuff looks to cost a bit more but I'm not sure how much you can use in twocycle oils per gallon but if its anything like Sabre its probably not much as Seafoam is used 2oz per gallon in mix fuels.

What are your thoughts?

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/aqs.aspx

I like that stuff did a good read on it from your link Indy. I would venture that 2oz would be a bit much per gallon especially if you are using Sabre already. I use to mix up a batch of Sthil Synthetic, 2oz per gallon of seafoam and 1 oz per gallon of mmo as a year end cleaning mix and beginning of the year mix.

The QuickShot I bet could be used all year long at 1oz per gallon and not have to do a drastic special year end mix to clean and stabilize and according to their recommendations

Recommendations
Quickshot SE is designed for an initial clean-up dose of 8 oz. per 6 gallons of gasoline, followed by 8 oz. per 12 gallons thereafter.

It looks like 3/4 OZ (.75 oz) per gallon initially and then a little over half ounce per gallon (.66) to maintain.

 

[GTP]

Upon more reading it seems more of a "stabilizer" than a "decarbonizer" like seafoam and MMO. Thi smay be good to use once you are all clean-but good 'ol seafoam mix maybe the best for end of year cleaning.

 

[echoman]

I used to run Seafoam and MMO in all my batches of mixed and straight fuel for many years, but with Seafoam getting stupid ridiculous in pricing, I stick with other additives like MMO, Star-Tron and B-12 in the can. Advance Auto had a sale about 2 years ago for Seafoam @ $35 per gallon. I should have bought more then because now it's $55!!

 

[mrbdm99]

Kerosene is much cheaper and almost the exact same thing as Seafoam... Or so I have heard.

 

[Orangedotfever]

Kerosene is much cheaper and almost the exact same thing as Seafoam... Or so I have heard.

Please define "almost the exact same thing".

"Or so I have heard" is kinda like, "Ya'll watch this." to me.

 

[Orangedotfever]

I used to run Seafoam and MMO in all my batches of mixed and straight fuel for many years, but with Seafoam getting stupid ridiculous in pricing, I stick with other additives like MMO, Star-Tron and B-12 in the can. Advance Auto had a sale about 2 years ago for Seafoam @ $35 per gallon. I should have bought more then because now it's $55!!

My local Menards is the only place that still has Seafoam for under $7 a bottle. I'll still use it at that price but will be looking for a substitute if it goes much higher.

I only use the Seafoam at the beginning and end of the season or if it seems the carb needs washed out. MMO the rest of the time.

 

[GTP]

I only use the Seafoam at the beginning and end of the season or if it seems the carb needs washed out. MMO the rest of the time.

Great system Mitch....can't go wrong with that.

 

[mrbdm99]

Please define "almost the exact same thing".

"Or so I have heard" is kinda like, "Ya'll watch this." to me.

http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=44136
- 3rd post down

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/53747-seafoam-ingredients.html
(http://www.msds.com/ that they reference in there, needs a free login)

http://forum.miata.net/vb/archive/index.php/t-176482.html
- about 14 posts down

http://mustangboards.com/general-tech-forum/21230-ever-wonder-whats-seafoam.html
- 3 posts down, but this person points out to it being a different mix ratio with more naptha than the others have mentioned ("white gas" mostly what they use in Coleman fuel I believe).

And finally, plenty of discussion about it on Bob is the Oil Guy's forums (you think oil gets debated heavy here...)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...QTDi5neDg&ved=0CB4QrQIwAA&fp=fb33825a2a74a863

But, in all reality, "Or so I've heard" is mostly via diesel mechanics and tractor guys that I used to get a chance to talk to a lot when my grandpa restored antique JD's for tractor pulls.

 

[Orangedotfever]

http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=44136
- 3rd post down

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/53747-seafoam-ingredients.html
(http://www.msds.com/ that they reference in there, needs a free login)

http://forum.miata.net/vb/archive/index.php/t-176482.html
- about 14 posts down

http://mustangboards.com/general-tech-forum/21230-ever-wonder-whats-seafoam.html
- 3 posts down, but this person points out to it being a different mix ratio with more naptha than the others have mentioned ("white gas" mostly what they use in Coleman fuel I believe).

And finally, plenty of discussion about it on Bob is the Oil Guy's forums (you think oil gets debated heavy here...)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...QTDi5neDg&ved=0CB4QrQIwAA&fp=fb33825a2a74a863

But, in all reality, "Or so I've heard" is mostly via diesel mechanics and tractor guys that I used to get a chance to talk to a lot when my grandpa restored antique JD's for tractor pulls.

I see a lot of things about, a friend did this or, a guy told me, or this happened to me. The internet is full of this stuff. I liked the post about the "friend across the hall in the lab". LOL. I've been using Seafoam for years and it's NOT just expensive kerosene just because joe-blow says it smells like it. I don't put it in my crankcase, it's a solvent and works great to clean carbs out. It's not a magic elixir though.

 

[Indy452]

I'm not sure I would use Kerosene in my crankcase but I might consider it in my carb breifly.

I truly believe that seafoam has the detergent to break down carbon from ring grooves and raise the compression in an old two cycle that has been neglected. If Kerosene could do that I'd like to know more.

 

[echoman]

It is a solvent, but surely has other additives to clean, decarbon, dry fuel and stabilize. I know it has petroleum distillates, but wouldn't classify it as "kerosene" either.

 

[GTP]

Just just did a back to back comparison of Kerosene vs. Seafoam. I "soaked" a F series muffler plate in kerosene overnight and hit it with a wire brush on one side took me an hour to scape that thing clean of the carbonized gunk.

I then took seafoam (deep creep) sprayed it on the other side of the muffler plate and hit it with the same brush. In literally a minute I was brushing the carbonize stuff off and was done with it in about 10 minutes.

Whatever Seafoam has in it-Kerosene does not.

 

[lawnboy dan]

seafoam is one of the few miricle in a can products that actually works. the e3 spark plug is another.works wonders in worn engines.

 

[mrbdm99]

I see a lot of things about, a friend did this or, a guy told me, or this happened to me. The internet is full of this stuff. I liked the post about the "friend across the hall in the lab". LOL. I've been using Seafoam for years and it's NOT just expensive kerosene just because joe-blow says it smells like it. I don't put it in my crankcase, it's a solvent and works great to clean carbs out. It's not a magic elixir though.

Well, color me wrong. Guess there is a first time for everything. The tractor folks do, though, have good luck with using kerosene (cut with some ATF or other oil at times) as a cheap engine cleaner. Doing some more digging and finally getting home to open the MSDS sheet, I see that, at least as classifiable chemicals go, this is the basic break down of Sea Foam:
Pale Oil 40-60%
Naphtha 20-25%
IPA 10-20%
Granted, anything that they use that isn't classified as needing to be covered on the MSDS wouldn't be listed, and as we all know, sometimes the most useful part of a mix is only a fraction of a percent. The kerosene smell that they get is coming from the type of naphtha (basically stove fuel w/o any additives) they use (the clear, colorless kind smells like kerosene). Pale oil seems to be essentially a very light weight oil, and IPA is just isoprophyl alcohol. Again, there could be something in there that just isn't listed that really does the dirty work, but I do know that they use straight naphtha as some type of industrial solvent.

Don't get me wrong, I'm wasn't saying that Seafoam or (to get back OT) Quickshot, isn't good stuff. It really helped to get the water and gunk out of my ATV. I'm fairly sure that it would have required a lot more work to get it going without it. If we would have had some kerosene on hand, I would have given it a shot as well, but as it happened someone had a bottle of Seafoam in their truck. All I'm saying is that it is relatively overpriced for what it is made up of. But, I also say that about just about everything since I'm very cheap.

 

[Orangedotfever]

All I'm saying is that it is relatively overpriced for what it is made up of.

No, what you said was, "Kerosene is much cheaper and almost the exact same thing as Seafoam". And most all of us disagreed.

 

[GrassBlaster]

Citronella oil at 15:1 works well for me....

 

[Bachsta]

Funny you mention the e3 plug i've been told by a few "experts" that the e3 is bs and works as well as anything else and is just more expensive. But I myself swear by them I put an e3 in my LB and it purrs to life so much easier than before.

Dan B. :smilie_fl

 

[Orangedotfever]

At the end of last year I put an E3 in my R7070 and an Autolite Iridium in my C21ZPN. Both start and run great but I need to pull them and take a look at how they are doing.

 

[2cycled fruitcake]

i,ve been using an ngk c5s for both my boys,& an "easy start champion in my snapper,
the snapper is blowing out the extra soot with seafoam in the gas& put a few drops in the oil, ran it under load for an hour&1 without&start it everyday for a few mins& hasnt fouled the oil yet.&rev it a bit too
on the boys, just the usual tan color from use,
havent checked the mtd yet, just some old champ. that was in there since i was asked to store it,
using pennzoil,valvoline,&itasca for oil,