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....between compact utility tractors and full size and by what do we gauge it?
Horsepower? GVW?
Hope this is'nt a dumb question- but, you know, I've never asked it.
 

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Mark,

With the Deere lineup, the CUTs go to the 4x20 series and the 5000 series and up are Utility Tractors. :)
 

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I think it's more like a wide gray line. I'd probably start a few fights, but the JD 2305 with its size and limited cat one 3PH, I would classify a SCUT.

With NH, it's the Boomer series which are generally called CUTs. Have no idea how Agco or anyone else breaks theirs down.
 

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jd call's my 4510 a large frame cut,and i would call it a small utility tractor or ag tractor.but at only 40 horse might be why they call it a large cut. i don't know but i bought way to small for my needs mostly. i need along the lines of a 100-150 horse tractor my mistake. live and learn i quess thought it would be enuf, i needed to do everything fron mowing lawn to moving snow to plowing and discing and planting on my 50 acers. i still have to borrow some family's tractor's and such.it sucks and i know they don't like it either.
 

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I have seen people say that the line from SCUT to CUT is horsepower... (I forget the number)

Funny thing is, my Massey Ferguson 2927 SCUT is 27 hp. The one-up CUT is the GC 2300, at 22.5 hp. Of course you can tell by looking at it that it's all business!
 

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With John Deere the lines are here...;)

Compact Utility Tractors
2000 Series (23-24 hp)
3000 Series (29.5-44 hp)
4000 Series (43-58 hp)
Tractor Loader Backhoe (43 hp)

Utility Tractors
5D/5E Series (45-75 hp)
5E Limited Series (83-101 hp)
5M Series (65-105 hp)
6030 Series (75-95 PTO hp)
6D Series (100-140 eng hp)

Row-Crop Tractors

7030 Small-Frame Series
(100-140 PTO hp)
7030 Large-Frame Series
(140-180 PTO hp)
8030 Series (180-275 PTO hp)
 

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Paul, great info as usual.
D-Dogg the 2305 is considered a SCUT.:D
 

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With John Deere the lines are here...;)

Compact Utility Tractors
2000 Series (23-24 hp)
3000 Series (29.5-44 hp)
4000 Series (43-58 hp)
Tractor Loader Backhoe (43 hp)

Utility Tractors
5D/5E Series (45-75 hp)
5E Limited Series (83-101 hp)
5M Series (65-105 hp)
6030 Series (75-95 PTO hp)
6D Series (100-140 eng hp)

Row-Crop Tractors

7030 Small-Frame Series
(100-140 PTO hp)
7030 Large-Frame Series
(140-180 PTO hp)
8030 Series (180-275 PTO hp)
Paul,

Actually the 4000 series tractors now go up to 66 hp (4720). :)
 

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I guess by those numbers my VAC Case would be called a GT.
 

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I guess by those numbers my VAC Case would be called a GT.
And my Kubota B6000 (12.5 HP diesel) would be a lawn tractor. I think it would be considered a SCUT.
 

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See there? I was right - open to lots of interpretation. The 2305 is according to Deere, a CUT "2305 4WD Compact Tractor (24hp)"

Now if we call the B6000 a SCUT at 12.5 HP, is my 318 with 18 HP, 3PH and rear PTO then a SCUT or CUT?

Or is it all in the tire size?


This could turn into a fun thread!
 

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D-Dogg you have the super duper GT/ Cat 1 SCUT mobile gas powered with automatic A/C when you go fast tractor.(Cig lighter not included).:sidelaugh

I actually saved my 2305 brochure and it states that it is a sub compact. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.:D
 

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D-Dogg, I have two 318s, a 316, a 2305, a Kubota Grand L 3540, a 1953 AR. My first was the 318, which I think the world of, I would call it the TUT, The Ultimate Tractor.

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I think you ought to sue JD for stealing your idea, Jake. I like it but:

Select Series™ X700 Ultimate™ Tractors


How about BAT?

Being from Alberta, how about a fancy sounding French acronym? Even potato soup sounds fancy in French.
 

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To me hp ain't got much to do with it,size/weight does,to me you got suped up lawnmowers[them kubota bx's is an example],than you got small,medium and large tractors,my kioti ck 30, 30 hp desil and weighs over 3,000 lbs,would call it a small tractor,but thats just me,many here call my sears lawn mower a tractor?:drunkie:
 

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To me hp ain't got much to do with it,size/weight does,to me you got suped up lawnmowers[them kubota bx's is an example],than you got small,medium and large tractors,my kioti ck 30, 30 hp desil and weighs over 3,000 lbs,would call it a small tractor,but thats just me,many here call my sears lawn mower a tractor?:drunkie:
Some calls it a kaiser blade, but I like to call it a sling blade, um hmm.

Anyway, I guess to get back to the OP, I'm pretty comfortable with the wikipedia definition, although it does not account for the SCUT class, which IMHO is a marketing term for big lawn and garden tractors made the way they used to make them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor
 

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D-DOGG,...The 318 was Ultimate long before the X series came along, but I will concede,.. I will have to agree with BLIND REF's classification. BAT might give the wrong impression, but suits it as well. DOT.. Dependable Old Tractor. Like you said, this thread could get fun or carried away.
Jake
 

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The B6000 also has 3 PT, front & rear PTO(although rear rotates in wrong direction), 20 inch rims on front & 27" rims on back, w/ AG tires all the way around.
I think I'll just call it a MUT - Mixed Up Tractor:duh::00000060:
 
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