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what models have 2-speed rears?

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i'v been looking for another Bolens and would love a large frame but they are a bit out of my price range for now. i love my H16XL and think the medium frame size works well for me, but i'd like to find one with alittle more power, an engine i can still get parts for, and i think the 2-speed rear would be nice feature to have.

i found a couple of Eliminators, a 1900H and a 2000H, i believe these both have the 2-speed. i think all(?) large frames have it. how about the Duratrac/GTX? any other medium frames have it? and just for information purposes witch tube frames have a real 2-speed rear, not the switchable pulley arangement?
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Only the HT-23 has it in the large frames. I believe the Duratrax/GTX models do too. These all have Eaton 11 transmissions.
The 5000 series 1900 and 2000 have two speed rear ends. The 1700, and 1800 do not. Not sure about the duro trac. The 5000 series is built with some common parts to the XL series with some upgrades. It has a cast iron axle with the PTO built in. The decks and snowblowers are shaft drive and have different mounting points and do not interchange with the XL series. I do believe that the rototiller will fit either series but may require diferent length drive shafts.
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The "large frames" tractors are the 1250, 1455, 1476, 1477, 1886, HT18, HT20, HT20D (Diesel), and the HT23. Only the HT23 and HT20D have 2-speed rears. I believe that the only other tractors that have 2-speed rears are the Duratrac GT1700 (5117H) and GT2000 (5120H), the Eliminator 1900 (5019H) and 2000 (5020), and the Troybilt GTX-20 (13076).

Tube frames with "real" 2-speed rears are as follows: 1000, 1050, 1220, 1053, 1253, 1054, 1254, G-10 (1977 on (1055-04)), G-12, G-14. I hope I haven't missed any.

Good luck in your quest.
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...Tube frames with "real" 2-speed rears are as follows: 1000, 1050, 1220, 1053, 1253, 1054, 1254, G-10 (1977 on (1055-04)), G-12, G-14. I hope I haven't missed any.

Good luck in your quest.
I'm not so sure about the G10 I have a G10, that by it's model/serial number (Mod: 1055 Sn#: 0400929) is a 1977, and it doesn't have the 2-speed rear, nor does it have the controlled differential.

I'm wondering if that's misinformation from the Sonnybolens site? I know that the info on the 800 is incorrect. The 1964 800 (Model 188-01) is listed as a 900. That's caused a lot of confusion for a lot of people.
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some g10s do late models if i recall
the early ones have a belt change you have to manual change over on the engine from 1 pulley to another sized pulley
You are a wise man, OldBuzzard; I did get that info from the Sonny's Bolens site. So, the info regarding the 1977 G-10 (1055-04) having a lever-actuated hi-lo range may indeed be incorrect. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
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hmm? famous rears for sure, but i'm not sure how they are considered 2-speed?

thanks, lots of good info guys.
You are a wise man, OldBuzzard; I did get that info from the Sonny's Bolens site. So, the info regarding the 1977 G-10 (1055-04) having a lever-actuated hi-lo range may indeed be incorrect. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Well, it may STILL be correct. Bolens1000, who is something of a "Tube Frame Guru", says that he has seen G10s with the 2-speed and controlled differential.

It's quite possible that mine is very early in the 1977 production run, and that they did make the change later, without changing the production run number.

Bolens did some strange things at times, and without having decent records, the best we can do now is give it a WAG.
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i have a 1968 1250-has a 2 speed rear in it,didnt think anything about it until i purchased a 1969 1250, noticed transmission lever on 69 would put tractor in neutral-drive and park,on 68,-it was high- neutral and low,previous owner must have done the swap,i really love the way this tractor performs, not complaining at all,yet i sure would like to know what this rear is originally out of,anyone know how i can identify,sure would appreciate any guidance. -thanks- kyle:
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i have a 1968 1250-has a 2 speed rear in it,didnt think anything about it until i purchased a 1969 1250, noticed transmission lever on 69 would put tractor in neutral-drive and park,on 68,-it was high- neutral and low,previous owner must have done the swap,i really love the way this tractor performs, not complaining at all,yet i sure would like to know what this rear is originally out of,anyone know how i can identify,sure would appreciate any guidance. -thanks- kyle:
We would love to see pics of that set up.
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Can you even take the rear from an HT23 and put it into a 1250 without major modifications?
Can you even take the rear from an HT23 and put it into a 1250 without major modifications?
I think it's possible, but I've never seen it done. They are both more or less the same size axle, and it probably wouldn't take too much to make the HT23 rear work. It sure would be a nice swap for a tractor with a tired eaton 12.

Jason
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I don't think it would be too difficult to adapt a 23 rear to a 1250. Would take a few mods on the hoses and brakes and additional holes drilled into the frame rails where the axle dowels come through.
Check this out. How's this for timing? Someone just listed a G-10 on CL that has a "3spd with hi/lo option"! I'm not sure if he's talking about a lever-actuated hi/lo or a belt change. It's hard to tell from the photo.

In any case, it sounds like a good deal for someone. He recently put a bunch of work into it (piston, rings and various bearings), but now it doesn't run. Easy fix? It looks good in the photo and it comes with a 42" deck, a 33" tiller and some extra parts, all for $300!

It's in NC:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/2775509762.html
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i found one on craigslist, says it's a '65 1000 and says it has hi low "built in to the trans".

too small for me, just thought id throw it out there.

nevermind, somone already said the 1000.
well i hope this works,first time trying to upload pics,-wilburj hope you can make it out

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Looks Loke some one slip a diffrent rearend into you 1250.
Should be a Eaton 12.
Well, since this got bumped, and there is some discussion on the G10, I'll add a bit more.

I'm 99.9% sure that the G10s never had a 2-spd transmission from the factory.

Reason being is that the 1978 G11 which is basically a G10 with an 11hp Briggs has the manual swap 2-spd pulley setup.

If the 1977 G10 would have had the 2-spd trans, that would have carried over to the G11.
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