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I have found a 400 for sale about an hour away. Talked to the guy tonight. He says the engine is blown up - he thinks a broken rod - and it has no deck. It has a set of ag's on the back. He has a spare engine that "just needs re-ringed" and it'll be good to go. He said he wants $700 for both engines and the tractor. I think this may be a little high. He said around $450 for the tractor and the blown engine. What are your thoughts?

I realize this is sight un-seen and it might be really nice. He never said anything so I'm going to assume it's in average shape.....
 

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$700 is about right for a 400 with engine issues and two engines. However D Dogg is right, it is not a steal especially since it doesn't have a deck. I have seen several 400's go for $750-800 in that condition on Ebay so I would say this is about the average price and the guy knows what it is worth. You can part it out and probably double your money if you decide it's not worth messing with.

You need to do an eyes on assessment of the tractor though make sure you are just replacing the engine. For example, it may have Ag's on it, but are they serviceable or do they just hold air? Ag's run $100+ a piece so costs can add up quickly if you are not careful.

Decks are not too hard to find but it needs to be a 400 deck to work, which is a 60 inch deck. I have seen some folks modify a 420 deck and use it since they very similar. Good luck.
 

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Maybe it is just me... but I have been told that if I ever buy a 400, buy it with all the attachments you would ever want/need. Attachments for these tractors are hard to find. Of course you could make a "Frankendeere".
 

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Common attachments like decks, plows, and snow throwers are not too hard to find. What gets difficult is finding a loader (stumbled on to mine last year), tiller's/PTO (more dumb luck and the ability to outbid on Ebay).

Not much really interchanges between the 400 and other models in the 400 or 300 line so if you are switching from one of those to a 400 then you run into either modifying your stuff or buy more attachments. They are good tractors though and are more oriented to ground work than simply being a mower.
 

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Modifying doesn't bother me much. I'm pretty handy when it comes to working iron. I'm also a mechanic for ag equipment so fixing doesn't bother me either. I found Carlise Tru Powers in the 23x10.5x12 for $80 a piece at my local Bomgaars, but I don't know if they're re-order or not.

How are the hydro's on those? It seems like the 300 series are pretty tough, I can't imagine the 400's being any weaker. Just a few things that have been running through my mind.

He didn't say that it had a 3 point so I'd imagine it doesn't.
 

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400's came stock with 26x12x12's so those are the wrong size unless someone changed the rims. The hydro's are good and strong on these pretty reliable. They do wear out though but short of tearing it down, not sure how check it without a running tractor. If it whines a lot that's sign of potential issues. You can go to Miller Tire on here and check pricing.
 

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OK, I didn't realize those had the big meats on them. If memory serves me they are about $130 each from Miller for the Tru Powers.

If I end up getting this I probably won't get to it for awhile. I need to finish my 300, rebuild the engine in my uncle's 6x4 Gator, and restore my cousin's 120. Then maybe I'd be ready to do the 400. Gives me time to hunt parts I guess.
 

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Kohler engines are easy to come by I'd be more interested in what shape the rest of the tractor is in,most 400s I've come across have a lot of hrs/wear on them.You can easily replace an engine a worn out tractor is much harder and expensive to fix up.
 

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OK, I didn't realize those had the big meats on them. If memory serves me they are about $130 each from Miller for the Tru Powers.

If I end up getting this I probably won't get to it for awhile. I need to finish my 300, rebuild the engine in my uncle's 6x4 Gator, and restore my cousin's 120. Then maybe I'd be ready to do the 400. Gives me time to hunt parts I guess.
Sounds like your family is keeping you busy. ;)

You never know. We might get to it quicker than you think. Hopefully my 120 doesn't take too long.

I'm gonna bring some extra cash in case he has a tiller/snowblower/something awesome. If you want the 400 bad enough, we can get it done. I'm gonna owe you something for your fees, anyhow. :fing32:
 

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Yeah we'll have to figure it out Ben.

I'm thinking of laying down $550 cash for the whole shootin' match and seeing what he does. If I have to I can pull more out of my pocket after I show him my empty wallet....

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Went and looked at it today. Guy looks like a mini-junk yard. The thing was buried in a shed with 20 others and lots of junk. Tractor is all tore apart. Looks like it has the 3 point - minus the lower arms. I looked at the engines. The blown one doesn't look bad at all. Little ridge in the cylinder and the crank looked better than the K341 in my 300 - and it only needed to be turned .010 - so I'm thinking that engine is really not too bad. The second engine was buried but he said there's no ridge and that he would just throw rings in it if it were him. I'm not a fan of doing things halfway. He also had a 60" deck for a 420/430. Seems to me that it would work if I made lift arms.

So he wants $500 for the tractor, $650 for the tractor with 2 engines, and he said he'd take $350 for the deck.

I think $600-$650 is enough for the tractor with the blown engine and the deck...
 

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I was thinking he was being pretty square with the price on the deck. It is in really nice shape. It's tough to tell on the tractor though because it's all in pieces. It's basically a bucket of bolts....
 

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I would say that's a good deal on the deck. If you can score the tractor, engines, and deck in the 650/700 range I say that's pretty good and go for it. Having the tractor in pieces sure makes it hard to figure out if you are getting everything. The 420 deck is better than a 400 deck in that it has 4 bogey wheels the 400 only has 3 with a skid for the front left.
 

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Yeah, We'll have to see what the week brings. I'm really close to getting my 300 running. I was pretty bummed about things and jumped on craigslist and found a 33 tiller for $500 here in town. I called the guy to see if it came with the rear PTO and stuff. He had to call his dad to see if he'd part the tractor out (it was on a 317). He called back and said come get the tractor and tiller for $500. Called my cousin - Ben P - and he came back over....I'll let him tell it from there, but it looks like I have another project on my list.
 
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