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Two issues as I winterize my mower

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I have made my last cut and am getting my mower ready for winter storage. Two issues arise.

1) Oil change. Do I really need to change it before I store it if I don't use it for anything but mowing? How about just changing it before I put it back into service next Spring? Yes it is cheap to change it but why do I need to if I am not using it?

2) Cleaning under the deck. I have clay soil and it is caked (baked) on. I have been using a chisel to break it loose and chipping the paint in some areas. I plan on sanding, priming and painting those areas. What can I use to loosen the crud so I maybe can use a plastic spatula or something? Thanks
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Wouldn't clay come off much easier soaking wet ??
One thought on the clay - turn it upside down and put a lawn sprinkler on it for a few hours to get and keep it wet. Then scrape it all off and let it dry.

FWIW - Frank
IMHO, unless the oil is really dirty, I would keep it in the engine and change it first thing next season. Since it's not going to be circulating in the engine while in storage, the old oil should be OK.
I lay my mower decks upside down, spray some cleaner -- 409 is what I use -- on the clay/mud and spray it with a hose. Let it sit and see if the soap/detergent will work on the crud. I then use a nozzle on the garden hose to "power-off" the crud. If it's too hardened, you may have to use a high pressure power washer, if you have access to one.
Otherwise, I guess you'll have to continue with a chisel or other "implements of destruction."
Jim
Webster Groves, MO
P S After posting this, I saw that Frank and KATT are suggesting esssentially the same thing for the clay!
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I like to change the oil to get out the dirt and acids that are in the engine. I also would fog the cylinders before storage and use a pressure washer on the deck. slkpk
agreed, soak the deck (water) and pressure wash.

stabilize the fuel, after putting stabil in the fuel run it for 5 mins or so to be sure entire fuel system is stabilized, why not do the oil change now?? but honestly it can wait till spring, remove battery terminals- then a tender is not needed...
Pressure washer on the deck. If you have clay hit it once, let it sit a half hour and then hit it again.:fing32:
I like to change the oil to get out the dirt and acids that are in the engine. I also would fog the cylinders before storage and use a pressure washer on the deck. slkpk
:ditto:
Whatever you decide to do about changing oil I've taken to writing the date of the oil change and other service on the underside of the hood with a sharpie. If I write it down somewhere else I always loose it.
Whatever you decide to do about changing oil I've taken to writing the date of the oil change and other service on the underside of the hood with a sharpie. If I write it down somewhere else I always loose it.
I'm doing the same thing on mine. Back to the OP, if that oil has more than 10-15 hours on it I would change it, as was said get the old with acid out not to mention there may be a little fuel in it.
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I always change the oil in the fall, to get all the dirty oil out rather than let it sit all winter and have the crud settle out in the sump, then don't change the oil in the spring as it is unused oil.

steve
I have 30 hours on it since last oil change in April. The oil still looks decent, honey color. It only takes about 45 minutes to mow and I always cut in the evening hours when cooler. I may go ahead and just change the oil but not the filter.
I have made my last cut and am getting my mower ready for winter storage. Two issues arise.

1) Oil change. Do I really need to change it before I store it if I don't use it for anything but mowing? How about just changing it before I put it back into service next Spring? Yes it is cheap to change it but why do I need to if I am not using it?
I would leave in the old oil, unless you are storing it in a heated space, because if it is in the cold the crank case can condense vapor, and you will start next year with with water vapor in the oil.
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I have 30 hours on it since last oil change in April. The oil still looks decent, honey color. It only takes about 45 minutes to mow and I always cut in the evening hours when cooler. I may go ahead and just change the oil but not the filter.
Why would you change the oil and not the filter? Don't make sense to me but it's your tractor so do what you want and enjoy doing it. Thats the most important part:trink40: slkpk
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Oil has rust inhibator's so up to you but I would change oil stabilize gas and fog the engine just my 2 cents
Drain some old dirty oil into a container and let it sit all winter. Then in the spring dump it out and look at the snotty mess that settled on the bottom of your container.

I always drain old oil before something is going to sit for a month or more.
I'm doing the same thing on mine. Back to the OP, if that oil has more than 10-15 hours on it I would change it, as was said get the old with acid out not to mention there may be a little fuel in it.
I always change the oil in the fall, to get all the dirty oil out rather than let it sit all winter and have the crud settle out in the sump, then don't change the oil in the spring as it is unused oil.

steve
Ditto to both!
You don't want used oil, even with only 10 hours on it, to sit in the Engine all winter and let the dirt settle out into the crankcase. :fing32:
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OK after reading your post I think I will go ahead and change it. It was a $4K lawn mower after all. One more thing, is there another brand filter I can use just for the winter storage. What is JD equivalent at Autozone or Wal-Mart? I have a x320 with a 22hp Kawasaki.
Drain some old dirty oil into a container and let it sit all winter. Then in the spring dump it out and look at the snotty mess that settled on the bottom of your container.

I always drain old oil before something is going to sit for a month or more.
That snot is called H2O.

While you are at it, put some new oil in another container and let it sit in the same fashion. If you put old or new oil in a sealed container, nothing will happen. Leave them both in an open container and get the same results.
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OK after reading your post I think I will go ahead and change it. It was a $4K lawn mower after all. One more thing, is there another brand filter I can use just for the winter storage. What is JD equivalent at Autozone or Wal-Mart? I have a x320 with a 22hp Kawasaki.
I hope you are storing it inside a heated building, if not I would change the oil again in the spring, because your engine is not that sealed plastic bottle that you poured the oil from.
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