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Couldn't wait to refinish the old dozer blade before I tried it out so I mounted it up on the refurbed/repowered Suburban 12, RV antifreeze filled Deestone AG's and a five gallon bucket of used wheel weights on the back and ready for work. Started to move a brush pile about 50 yards and things were moving so well I yanked it into high range then encountered a stump. Pushed the bottom of the blade mount back about 4" and have a couple cracks close to where it welds to the sleeve that slides into the frame. No other damage. Assuming I can get it straightened back out I'm thinking of welding a couple pieces of angle (corner sticking out) to the inside of this plate to stiffen it. Any other ideas?

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Those blade were designed as snow blades not brush blades so you'll need some beefing up for sure.
You especially don't want to "push" at speed if the blade doesn't have a trip mechanism. I think adding the angle iron and slowing down will result in the blade doing what you want.
If you look at the manual, you'll notice that there are braces coming from the bottom of the bracket to the front axle. Your setup is missing these braces. They are designed to prevent this from happening. See item Q in the attached image.

And I second what has been said before, if you don't have trip, then your likely to do a lot of damage when hitting an immobile object! Cool tractor though, and I'm excited to see more of it!

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If you look at the manual, you'll notice that there are braces coming from the bottom of the bracket to the front axle. Your setup is missing these braces. They are designed to prevent this from happening. See item Q in the attached image.

And I second what has been said before, if you don't have trip, then your likely to do a lot of damage when hitting an immobile object! Cool tractor though, and I'm excited to see more of it!
I've got three of those arms on my snow/dozer blade. The top one attaches to the hole on the top of the axle and the bottom 2 attach to the holes on the bottom of the axle. This is a picture of mine. The part that slides into the mule drive slot is missing on this one, I hope to do something about that before we have snow again, although I could use it for a bunch of stuff around here right now.

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I used my dozer blade the other day to push trees about 10-12" thick 25+ feet long into a pile after cutting them down and dragging them into the back yard,and I also pushed a big pile of branches into a 3 foot high bundle with it too..

The trick is to use only first gear or low range,if the load is real heavy..hitting anything at speed with these blades just ruins things,especially if some brackets are missing,as you found out..best to push straight on too,not at an angle or you'll be likely to bend or break that half moon shaped flat bar for the angle lock mechanism..it also beats on the pins in the mule drive slots..

My tractor wants to climp right up onto the pile of logs or brush if your not careful,with 250+ lbs on the back plus wheel weights and fluid filled tires and chains,its practically unstoppable..it'll keep climbing until it goes over backwards if you let it!..had my neighbors eyeballs looking like this when I climbed up the brush pile with it > :eek:...and he was quite surprised at how I was able to drag those heavy cherry trees and pull down 2 that had busted off about 10 feet up..he said "HA--you'll never move that big a tree with that thing!"...
I said "Watch me",and I smiled when I saw his jaw drop a few inches!..
I'd like to see his box store John Deere move it!..
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They actually are made to push loose dirt and not just snow. And like the others said, should be 3 braces.
Some snow we get here is heavier than wet cement!..I think the dirt pushes easier...:D
If you look at the manual, you'll notice that there are braces coming from the bottom of the bracket to the front axle. Your setup is missing these braces. They are designed to prevent this from happening. See item Q in the attached image.

And I second what has been said before, if you don't have trip, then your likely to do a lot of damage when hitting an immobile object! Cool tractor though, and I'm excited to see more of it!
Thank you and the others for your input. I got this plow years ago and had it mounted on a Murray made LT10, not sure I ever got the lower braces with it. Once I get the bracket straightened out I'll have to fab up some.

el_simonito, I did a thread on the build for this tractor here:
http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=271283

Tractor-Holic, I know what you mean about climbing up the brush pile. The beast is an animal. Just got caught doing things I know better than to do. The only stump in an open field and I had to choose that direction to push the brush.:biglaugh:
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My snowplow has a chain that keeps it from tipping to far if it hits something. . .driving around the yard the other day, the chain fell off, and the tractor tried to run over the plow. . . .(I was warned about that too. . . . .) No harm done though, I stomped on the brakes fast enough.
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