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They are both Simplicities, just one is badged a Massey. It will be a K66L which has traction control and a locking diff. The Landlord is a beefier machine with hydro lift and steering but more hours on the clock. While the Massey doesn't have the hydro lift or steering it also means they won't break on you. If you search on my name you can view my postings on my Conquest. It is the exact machine the Massey is, 16HP, K66L, 44" Deck. I bought it from a dealer in WI and had it shipped, I've done a bunch of service on it and posted most of it up here with pictures.
 

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Ok. Well right off the bat it's as good as the 3000 new husky I was looking at. It has the k66 too. This is 1/3 cost so might be a good idea. Still like the idea of the beefier tractor better but if y'all think 700 hrs us to much ill pass...
 

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I would buy the Massey because of the low hours but the 44" deck is a little small I'm thinking. Got a 42" now and the added size of the 50" or the even the 60" on the wheelhorse could come in handy. I'm really seriously considering the landlord... The power lift and steering though is something else to break like you said. The KISS method is best sometimes when you need equipment out of necessity. At 700 hrs I've seen a lot of tractors with more than that so it doesn't overly concern me...I don't think. Lol.
 

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talked to him more tonight about the tractor and he told me its a 1693383 with a 1692688 deck. He bought the tractor new about 10 years ago (although i think its prob more like 12-13 years ago based on model but thats no biggie). he stated its always had its oil changed regularly and the transaxle serviced. its never needed any repairs or had a problem except for one ball joint in the steering arm a while back. The Massey sold as well, they were both his tractors but they have upgraded to a SCUT. Im liking the way this deal is shaping up. Im on vacation now so when i get home i told him i would be by to check it out and ill do what yall said. Listen for noises in the hydro, check steering play, movment / damage in the deck or mandrels. Still looking for any more input guys if there is any to be had. Havent mentioned price to him yet but ill go with cash in hand just like my dad taught me so we can really negotiate if it all checks out. Ive learned thats always the best and way to negotiate.
 

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A good used lawn tractor is worth exactly what you are willing to pay for it. I understand that is vague to be sure, but truthful.

Here's the deal...this appears to be a solid lawn tractor...if it doesn't have excessive play in the steering and starts and runs well without smoking or making obscene noises and isn't leaking fluids everywhere, it would be well worth the asking price. If it were me, I don't believe I would begin by lowballing quite as much as $800 since you can't find 10 year old Regents for that kind of money, but instead think of offering $995...if you end up at $1100 I feel you received a quite good deal on a very solid tractor that should last you a very long time. By way of comparison, you're looking at a Conquest or Prestige to compare new models and at minimum $5500 or so...$1100 is starting to sound real good for a excellent mowin' machine.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I keep going back and forth in my head on what to do. The age and hours scare me one moment then not so much the next. I "need" a larger and more capable mower but I'm not going to die if it doesn't happen right now. I keep thinking 1200 is a lot of money and if there are problems we don't have many good shops around here for service and the closest simplicity dealing is over an hour away. Then I start comparing it to the new husqvarna gt52xls the wife and I looked at and I realize how much more tractor this is and the price starts to seem like a good deal with the t71 hydro over the g730, the diff lock and power steering for 1/3 the price. Ill be back in town tomorrow and plan on at least looking it over and taking a buddy with me that is really good at fixing and restoring old mowers. He does most of my troubleshooting anyway so I figure its best to get his opinion. I know nothing about average hours etc and just get on my current mower weekly and cut grass without much consideration on this. I change my fluids yearly as recommend etc. is it the general consensus that 700 hrs is a lot or not that big a deal on this year machine? Like I said not a huge deal to wait for a better deal I just don't have many heavy duty mowers show up in my area very often and before this one was listed I had barely even heard of simplicity. So it's not like I was "searching" for this mower and will be heart broke if I miss out.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I keep going back and forth in my head on what to do. The age and hours scare me one moment then not so much the next. I "need" a larger and more capable mower but I'm not going to die if it doesn't happen right now. I keep thinking 1200 is a lot of money and if there are problems we don't have many good shops around here for service and the closest simplicity dealing is over an hour away. Then I start comparing it to the new husqvarna gt52xls the wife and I looked at and I realize how much more tractor this is and the price starts to seem like a good deal with the t71 hydro over the g730, the diff lock and power steering for 1/3 the price. Ill be back in town tomorrow and plan on at least looking it over and taking a buddy with me that is really good at fixing and restoring old mowers. He does most of my troubleshooting anyway so I figure its best to get his opinion. I know nothing about average hours etc and just get on my current mower weekly and cut grass without much consideration on this. I change my fluids yearly as recommend etc. is it the general consensus that 700 hrs is a lot or not that big a deal on this year machine? Like I said not a huge deal to wait for a better deal I just don't have many heavy duty mowers show up in my area very often and before this one was listed I had barely even heard of simplicity. So it's not like I was "searching" for this mower and will be heart broke if I miss out.
I have a '03 Prestige I use to cut my MIL's yard, her neighbor and a couple of other yards who has seen the results of how nice a well striped lawn manicure looks. It was never my intention to have a small group of customers to mow...it just kind of worked out that way and I enjoy the time on the machine while mowing...and found it also brings in a few extra dollars too! LOL!! At any rate, if you look at my avatar from a couple of years ago my unit still looks exactly like that...it is generally kept clean, waxed and maintained to a high degree. Many people believe my unit is either new or nearly new and can't believe it's now 11 years old...and it has I believe about 520 hours on it. 700 hours is nothing if well maintained...or even maintained decently. As for missing out...well sure you will!! You have already said these tractors rarely come along in your area...ok, how many Simplicity units such as this come along in your area? I suspect very few, so essentially you will miss out on what seems like a good deal for an excellent machine. Your choices are then limited by what the very limited market has available...or, you can go buy a vastly inferior machine (Husky) for 3 times the price and it should be about wore out and ready for replacement in another 5 to 10 years...just giving some food for thought and prospective here.
 

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Perspective.....that's what I'm looking for. Thnx.

I guess even if it did have problems over the next few years it would be tough to add up to the 2000 difference in price between this mower and the new husky.
 

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You could always sell it if you didn't like it, too. Why not take a shot at it?
 

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For the landlord, 700 hours isn't really a lot as long as it's been taken care of.

I really don't get concerned over age and hours, it's just like a car. You could have a 1969 Mustang that has 140,000 miles and runs great because it's been taken care of, but have a 2010 with 70,000 that's never had an oil change and runs horrible.
 

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Both very true. Thanks guys. I guess if it checks out this week ill be trying to find some cash to buy. I can always sell my 2010 craftsman for a lil cash and unload a lil extra gear in the garage.
 

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I have a couple of these tractors and they are great. I keep a tiller on 1 with ag tires and 1 with turbo bagger for summer and switch over to snow blower in winter. The diff lock comes in handy with all jobs and once you get used to that power steering you won't want to go back. One thing I have found is if the prev. owner did not use the diff. lock you may have to work it to get the links freed up. Never try to engage it when the free tire is spinning. Stop the wheels and then engage. You can snap those pins.
 
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