[chzuck]

I also heard pretty much the same concerning it requiring a lot of heat to really have an effect on the yellow metal. Years ago I bought GL-1 oil from McMaster Carr and more recently found GL-1 at a local hardware store made by the Warren Oil Company Inc (Warren Oil Company, LLC - World Class Lubricants - Motor Oil, Transmission Fluid, Antifreeze, Greases, and more!). I buy their SAE 90W and SAE 140W. I have also seen GL-1 at Tractor Supply labeled for the early Ford Ferguson tractors. Is there a TSC near you?

 

[3macs1]

I also heard pretty much the same concerning it requiring a lot of heat to really have an effect on the yellow metal. Years ago I bought GL-1 oil from McMaster Carr and more recently found GL-1 at a local hardware store made by the Warren Oil Company Inc (Warren Oil Company, LLC - World Class Lubricants - Motor Oil, Transmission Fluid, Antifreeze, Greases, and more!). I buy their SAE 90W and SAE 140W. I have also seen GL-1 at Tractor Supply labeled for the early Ford Ferguson tractors. Is there a TSC near you?

No nothing like that here. I could not even find gl-4 to buy let alone gl-1
makes it hard and real expensive to keep old gear running
Cheers

 

[chzuck]

Is buying from McMaster Carr expensive for you?

 

[3macs1]

Is buying from McMaster Carr expensive for you?

Hi
It is about a year now I checked with them and they said

Yes, they still ship to existing clients only in canada, and are willing to ship to new clients if you buy enough.

Enough was $500 US

Ahhh just makes it part of the challenge trying to overhaul these old tillers and get parts etc up here
I buy what I can off e-bay, have one Mtd dealer in ontario that will get me some stuff but oil was an issue But only for the cost of it
I can order it now off e-bay but it is like $70 US a gallon by the time I get it
I was getting used troy tiller parts through my brother in West virginia last year from e-bay sellers that would not ship to canada but I took care of that last year by buying probally three parts machines here
Even tines from K&D they will ship to me but I am looking at $250 a set by the time they arrive
It sucks
Cheers

 

[chzuck]

That is ridiculous!

 

[3macs1]

That is ridiculous!

Sure is. Was never like that here. Years ago we were doing well mining coal and every power transmission distributor, bearing manufacturer you could name was set up here which huge inventories. Could get what ever we needed and at great prices Then 17 years ago they closed the mines and with in 3 years poof these companies were gone
I know my brother alone went from two large shipments a month out of west virginia to canada to maybe one a year now
So after that I got what I needed on e-bay and had it shipped usps, then about 6 years ago it seemed they no longer wanted to handle international shipments and their rates went up like 4 times to the extent we can no longer ship from the US
Like $60.25 US to ship that row marker to me is nuts when only a few years ago probally 20 would have done it. I love buying made in USA but cannot afford to ship it
Cheers

 

[3macs1]

Interesting maybe if I land this one here I can get it overhauled under warranty

 

[mikeinri]

One can only imagine how expensive it must be, if you can even find a willing shipping company, to transport oil across town, let alone across the border.

I know we've discussed this in another thread in the past, but NAPA (and others) carry the GL-4 oil. The problem is getting it to you for anything less than an arm and a leg. Good to know that the factory doesn't see the risk others have concluded over the years.

Mike

 

[3macs1]

One can only imagine how expensive it must be, if you can even find a willing shipping company, to transport oil across town, let alone across the border.

I know we've discussed this in another thread in the past, but NAPA (and others) carry the GL-4 oil. The problem is getting it to you for anything less than an arm and a leg. Good to know that the factory doesn't see the risk others have concluded over the years.

Mike

Unfortunately napa here even thought they are just a few miles down the road looked at me like I had three heads when I asked for gl-4. Even had a napa part number for it and they could not use it here
Cheers

 

[chzuck]

Sure is. Was never like that here. Years ago we were doing well mining coal and every power transmission distributor, bearing manufacturer you could name was set up here which huge inventories. Could get what ever we needed and at great prices Then 17 years ago they closed the mines and with in 3 years poof these companies were gone
I know my brother alone went from two large shipments a month out of west virginia to canada to maybe one a year now
So after that I got what I needed on e-bay and had it shipped usps, then about 6 years ago it seemed they no longer wanted to handle international shipments and their rates went up like 4 times to the extent we can no longer ship from the US
Like $60.25 US to ship that row marker to me is nuts when only a few years ago probally 20 would have done it. I love buying made in USA but cannot afford to ship it
Cheers

You need a friend across the border. Would that not make it somewhat cheaper or is there a huge import fee? I had a fellow who bought some Rototiller parts from me who lived in Canada and to send it to him in Canada it would have been $40 more. He had a son across the border and only ask that I write a detailed bill of sale for him to take it across the border after picking it up from his son.

 

[bontai Joe]

Unfortunately napa here even thought they are just a few miles down the road looked at me like I had three heads when I asked for gl-4. Even had a napa part number for it and they could not use it here
Cheers

Well, now I know what to smuggle into Canada on my next trip north. Seriously, I am amazed (and saddened)that it is so hard to get specialty lubricants

 

[3macs1]

Well, now I know what to smuggle into Canada on my next trip north. Seriously, I am amazed (and saddened)that it is so hard to get specialty lubricants

Lubes are just a small part of it Joe. Hard to get a lot of stuff up here I am also a shotgun guy and reloading crazy how hard it is to get components and gun parts
Stuff we do find is always way way over priced
Cheers

 

[3macs1]

You need a friend across the border. Would that not make it somewhat cheaper or is there a huge import fee? I had a fellow who bought some Rototiller parts from me who lived in Canada and to send it to him in Canada it would have been $40 more. He had a son across the border and only ask that I write a detailed bill of sale for him to take it across the border after picking it up from his son.

Or live closer myself. I have two brothers state side one in Ohio and one in west virginia but lets just say I have to be on my last hope before I would ask either to help me with stuff like this
Basically the way it works now I buy something state side I have to add 30% just to get US dollars, then they ship which is crazy money for even the smallest items
Customs get it and charges $10 to inspect, if not made in the USA I pay duties from whatever 7% to maybe 15%, then I pay 15% tax on the total value in canadian dollars including the fees and shipping
so a gallon of oil that I bought for 24.00 US cost me $70 US ib this case by the time it hit my door
Cheers

 

[3macs1]

Well I got my black horse home this weekend only one I have ever seen up this way I think
She is all a part and I mean all apart including the two gearboxes which will be a challenge for me to get back together but I will with the right drawings
The guy that had it intended to do it exactly as it was originally supplied so the parts he finished are as new all bead blasted, primed and professionally sprayed with automotive paint and I will have to do the same I guess with what is not done and that will be costly for me. From looking at the gearbox gears etc I think that was the only reason they were totally stripped down for cleaning and paint
I think I have all of the main parts but will be buying most bearings, seals, fasteners, gaskets and shims
Will probally start it in the fall
I was also wrong when I posted her serial number earlier it is actually 2399 with the al tag that says Dean Leith jr silver anniversary signature Model # 2399
Cheers

 

[chzuck]

If you have the transmission manual which is available on this forum, it will be fairly easy. I had one completely disassembled and put it back together.

 

[3macs1]

If you have the transmission manual which is available on this forum, it will be fairly easy. I had one completely disassembled and put it back together.

Ahh I see it now. I didnot know that was there. Thanks for pointing that out. Greatly appreciated
Kind Regards
Joe

 

[chzuck]

Keep us posted on your progress and what you find different from other T-B Horses.

 

[3macs1]

Keep us posted on your progress and what you find different from other T-B Horses.

Will do but it will be probally late summer early fall before I get at it. i don't think it is too much different at all from looking so far but I have not got deep yet. Now the u-haul she is a unique animal and I will share what i noticed all ready

On the black horse
Stainless motor mount pins and tapped for grease fittings there
All the painted parts were bare metal just painted black except the bumper guard was red and they sprayed the black over it
The cover over the tines is a different profile stamping and the rims are factory drilled for wheel weights which I don't think is standard on others of this year

That is it so far
Cheers

Oh yes everything I have read on these said they came with special hardened tines so I was expecting a good set to use since they were originals. Well if they were special I would not want to see the regular ones since I have never seen a set worn down that low on a machine and they were two hole tines so factory I would say

 

[chzuck]

I guess it really depends on the soil. Didn't an earlier poster say he still has the originals on his tiller?

 

[3macs1]

I guess it really depends on the soil. Didn't an earlier poster say he still has the originals on his tiller?

Yes he did as well as others have. Soil or someone knew what they were at one time and did an exchange prior to selling the machine. Don't know what it is but here I am finding many guys have at least two machines
and as we age now selling off one I know the u-hauls had them also and funny how one I got is stripped clean but they left the tine housings and the other still has a set on it and not that bad and I can just imagine the hours and rocks that machine seen
My only experience with them is the wife's uncle has a set on his roughly 90 machine and the older guy across the road has a set on his and both have tilled large plots for many years and they are still in good shape
That is why I was hoping with three machines here I would get a couple of sets but it was not to be
Those KD's I put on last year and they were not the hard hat ones seen a lot of rocks and look new so they will be my future replacements on any machines
Cheers