Hmm...looks like the linked unit is the same part that JD sells for $13 -- Stens makes a version also on Amazon that doesn't get very good reviews so if I'm going to go this route I might as well just get it from the JD dealer. It's a universal solenoid so I don't know what mods I'd have to make to mount it. I guess I could design and 3D print some kind of adapter... Brad, have you used this universal-type solenoid on other tractors?Does the solenoid engage and the starter turn when you jump the posts on the solenoid?
Never mind, read your post again. I am going to surmise that you could get an aftermarket solenoid and bypass the original. Should be able to get by with $15 or $20
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If you do have one and it's in working condition I'd be happy to take it off your hands if you're sure you won't be needing it. I'll pay the shipping of course. Let me know as soon as you get a minute to look for it. Need to get this done asap since I still don't know if the PTO clutch works and need to get it running to find out, and the danged grass won't stop growing.I MAY possibly have one out in my shed...but it is pouring out and I have to be on a job site in the morning...I will be able to check and let you know if I have it by around 2 or 3 ....if I have it..it is yours...I will let you know
@MARK (LI) read along and double check my suggestions. Want to make sure I'm leading him right.Hmm...looks like the linked unit is the same part that JD sells for $13 -- Stens makes a version also on Amazon that doesn't get very good reviews so if I'm going to go this route I might as well just get it from the JD dealer. It's a universal solenoid so I don't know what mods I'd have to make to mount it. I guess I could design and 3D print some kind of adapter... Brad, have you used this universal-type solenoid on other tractors?
I'm going to take a good long look at the thing again today and will test the small tab on the solenoid. It seems strange to me too that this solenoid thing just kicked up after the new PTO clutch install. Having said that, starting has always been iffy as long as I've had this thing and sometimes I've had to trickle-charge it overnight to get enough power to crank it enough to start. Without the battery fully charged, the starter turns but hasn't always had enough juice to turn over with enough conviction to fire up the engine. Will get back to you later this afternoon.I don't know, in reading your post again from top to bottom, I'd start with the cheap (free) things first.
When turning the key, tap lightly the relay in the starter assist relay. Then, take 12v right from the battery to the small tab on the current solenoid and see what happens (be careful that you don't have blades engaged or tractor in gear cuz if it starts there will be no safeties to protect it from moving/mowing).
With the symptoms and results as stated not sure if I'm sold on the issue being a bad solenoid. @MARK (LI), thoughts?
OK, I see what he's doing. Not sure I want to go that route...I'm cheap but that's a lot of hassle and for $60 more bucks I get the JD OEM STX38 solenoid and they'll stand behind it. Also, I think it's good to buy stuff from the JD dealer occasionally so they don't start flipping you off when you come in with questions. I've seen that guy Taryn. Those teeth drive me nuts. He'd get a lot more views with his regular teeth...or who knows maybe they're even more rotten than those fake ones.@MARK (LI) read along and double check my suggestions. Want to make sure I'm leading him right.
I just thought about this for a minute and would rather suggest you watch this video:
Now, I'd seen this previously and that is what I was thinking when I suggested a second solenoid. But, your setup needs the solenoid not only to energize the starter but possibly to engage it as well. But the task that Teryl is performing looks like your setup (or very similar).
And, I would certainly go with the local JD dealers item. Local guy and you don't have to wait for it to come in. Good price!
**Edit--@Mark LI :If he connects the battery cable from the battery right to the starter and the engine cranks, could he not:
Mount the aftermarket solenoid someplace convenient and kind of local to current solenoid, tho not necessary. Take trigger wire off current solenoid and put on new solenoid. Take a short heavy cable from one side of new solenoid and put on post of old solenoid where starter is connected. Take the heavy cable that runs from the battery to the old solenoid and put on the new solenoid. As far as all the smaller wires/cables on the old solenoid's large post, you can move to the new solenoid. Basically those should be: 1, wire that energizes the starter assist relay, and 2, wire from the charging system that charges voltage back to the battery via the heavy red cable on the solenoid.
Now, I have read this thread but just to verify, if you put 12v from the battery to the SMALL trigger wire terminal on the current solenoid, you get nothing?
Hey Bob thanks for joining the party, here's the status, I'm working on it now.Motor, you've got a couple possibilities here! Bad contacts "someplace" between battery and solenoid, bad solenoid (probably contacts), bad cable to starter, or bad starter!
I didn't go back through the entire post, but I think (??) Mark mentioned the start relay kit for the solenoid. This would give you full battery voltage & amperage to the solenoid. A quick check is a temporary wire from battery to existing solenoid. If engine cranks, solenoid contacts are OK. If it doesn't, cold be bad connection from solenoid to starter. From your pic, I can't see where/how solenoid connects to starter motor. If possible, connect jumper cable from battery to starter motor and see if it will turn over. If not, bad starter. Bob