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Does anyone know what would cause the starter to not engage all the time or come disengaged while cranking? The solenoid was replaced recently and seemed to work for a while but its back to acting up.:banghead3
 

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What is the condition of the starter gear and the flywheel teeth? Also, read the notes on this new starter. Not saying this is the problem. Just giving something for thought. http://www.hoyetractor.com/mm5/merc...oduct_Code=SM-1500&Category_Code=1300ELECTRIC What about the condition of starter bearings?
Well last time when I replaced the starter solenoid the teeth on the flywheel looked kinda worn on the starter side. Im not sure what starter is on it as it was on it when we bought the tractor so as far as I know it could be the original.
I guess from what you are saying it sounds like Im going to have to buy a new starter and flywheel...
 

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NO NO, not saying that, just putting something out there for thought. Do you know if your starter gear has the correct number of teeth? I believe your starter should have a 9 tooth gear. After doing more looking I am not sure how many teeth your starter should have. There are both 9 tooth and 11 tooth out there for sale. Might want to call a parts dealer for correct information. Do you happen to have a parts manual for your 1300? Back to edit one more time. Fredricks on line parts manual shows two different starters for the 1300, both of them are 11 tooth. How's this for confusion? :dunno:
 

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NO NO, not saying that, just putting something out there for thought. Do you know if your starter gear has the correct number of teeth? I believe your starter should have a 9 tooth gear. After doing more looking I am not sure how many teeth your starter should have. There are both 9 tooth and 11 tooth out there for sale. Might want to call a parts dealer for correct information. Do you happen to have a parts manual for your 1300? Back to edit one more time. Fredricks on line parts manual shows two different starters for the 1300, both of them are 11 tooth. How's this for confusion? :dunno:
I know you wernt saying I needed those parts its just what it sounds like Im going to end up needing. Plus I know my fly wheel is worn from the last time I looked at it... Unfortuantly I do not have a manual for it but according to hoye I believe I am supposed to have the 11 tooth one, I guess I really need to pull it off for inspection. Its just a pain cause I have to pull the oil filter off as well.
I was just hoping there was something simple that would be causing the starter to not engage fully or not at all.
 

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Seems like pulling the starter for a real close inspection may be what you need to do. I will say I have seen some pretty rounded teeth on flywheel gears and the starter still engage and stay engaged. At the same time I am sure there is a point when it no longer would.
 

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Seems like pulling the starter for a real close inspection may be what you need to do. I will say I have seen some pretty rounded teeth on flywheel gears and the starter still engage and stay engaged. At the same time I am sure there is a point when it no longer would.
Well I pulled the starter and the teeth on the flywheel are worn about 1/8 of an inch and on the starter they are about 1/16th. I would think they should have more than 3/16th contact, it just seems like the starter gear need to move out further. I guess Ill see if I can get some pictures up in a little while.
Oh and it has 11 teeth but today when I went to bump it to see if it would engage it didnt do anything:banghead3 Really dont want to have to spend 400$ on this little tractor when Im in the process of putting a new engine in my El Camino...
 

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The battery can be great, but, if one of the many connections is corroded this starter problem will occur.

I found a crimp cable connection loose. A new end fixed mine.

Get a GOOD (not old!!) set of 4 gauge jumper cables and jump past ALL the connections and see if the starter works better.

If it cranks faster, start checking each cable/connection. :dunno:
 

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Do you mean you bumped it while on the bench? And the gear did not go forward? Did it spin?
No I haven had a chance to bench test it yet, it was still on the tractor. Im going to try and bench test it later tonight and check to be sure my solenoid isnt fried. It got really hot yesterday for some reason,kinda seems like the solenoid grounded out to the starter or something because the key wasnt on and it heated up enough to burn wd40 off as soon as it was sprayed on.
 

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Check if you have or don't have juice on the small wire at the solenoid with the key in the OFF position.
You could have a bad switch or wiring letting a small amount of current to the solenoid but not enough to turn it.
 

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Check if you have or don't have juice on the small wire at the solenoid with the key in the OFF position.
You could have a bad switch or wiring letting a small amount of current to the solenoid but not enough to turn it.
Well to be honest I screwed up installing the solenoid 2 years ago and didnt put a gasket between it and the starter so every time you would hook up the battery it would turn over. I did fix the gasket thing a few days ago which is actually when I hooked up the battery so Ill check to see if my ignition which could potentially cause it to overheat like it did.
 

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Ok the starter works pretty much fine on the bench other than it makes a pretty bad clicking/grinding noise when the gear retracts back in. another thing is the lever that kicks the starter gera out tends to fall down inside the starter and I can almost pull it out.
 
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