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I have a decision where I'm all over the map.... excuse the long preamble to my question. I've been considering a Simplicity Legacy XL, but have also batted around the idea of the 758. I like the 33HP Vanguard motor in the simplicities. I know that motor is a freakin' horse. We run the 31 hp version at work at full rev in our pressure washers all day every day and they run problem free for years.
I have about 3 bumpy acres...slightly hilly but nothing tough. I want something that will stand up to the continuous shaky bumps of my yard. The yard drains well and generally mud won't be a problem.
I want a mower that will get the job done fast, and I want something that will last me for the next 20 years with regular maintenance.
We have a JD compact tractor (with a broken 3 pt hitch) for most tractor work and quads with snow plows, so I don't believe I need the hydraulic/3pt capabilities....this is pretty much just a mower. I would like to run a 60 inch deck.
The big twist is that the Legacy XL is slightly above the top of what I'd like to spend. The 758 is even more above. I'll stretch and buy one...it's just getting slightly to the "is this overkill and a waste of money" point in doing so. I was hoping to be at 12,000, by the time I add a deck to the XL, I'd be at 12,600 plus 2600 = 15,200. Again... I can do it, just a stretch.
The rest of my twist is that I'd also really like to spend about 3,000 on a tractor shed. If I do that, it's probably coming out of my mower money....which means I'd have to find something in the 9-12K range.
I'm wondering if for the use I'm describing if I'm overspending. Could I spend 5-6 or ?? on something for straight grass mowing and still get that 20 years?
Lastly...I think I like the idea of a lawn/garden tractor....but I could consider a zero turn since it's only for mowing. I have one now, and I think I slightly prefer the tractor.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
 

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For about 14K I can get a JD739 with AWD AWS and a 60" drive over deck. It seems like the setup of the mower would be great, and it's in the price range of the Legacy XL...but has a far better turn radius. The downside to it is it's a 25.5hp Kawasaki. That concerns me, being that I LOVE that 33hp Vanguard in the Legacy. I want a powerful mower that will mow great & mulch grass really well.
 

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For mowing only, nothing beats a zero turn, especially if you want to mow fast. Is there something about your yard that would make you not consider a zero turn?

Go Bucks! Quite a scare with indiana last week?
 

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For about 14K I can get a JD739 with AWD AWS and a 60" drive over deck. It seems like the setup of the mower would be great, and it's in the price range of the Legacy XL...but has a far better turn radius. The downside to it is it's a 25.5hp Kawasaki. That concerns me, being that I LOVE that 33hp Vanguard in the Legacy. I want a powerful mower that will mow great & mulch grass really well.
Both Tractors are rated at 18 PTO HP The 33Hp is Just a Briggs selling Gimmick really isn't anymore Powerful then the Deere The quality of Simplicity has really began to slip in the last few Years With Briggs Bankruptcy I don't really know how stable Simplicity really is Now.

You don't need 33HP to mow the Lawn!

I ran a 25Hp Liquid cooled Kawasaki for 11 years In a X485(older Version of a X730) Never Had a Issue with Taking care of 5.5 acres with it 2.5 acre Lawn and 3 acre tilled I upgraded to a Used X748 In 2014. Don't really mow with it anymore strictly Loader, Tiller and winter work.

I Mow with a Cub Cadet XT3 GSX. This coming Spring/Summer I am Going to be Buying a Cub Cadet S or SX( the use steering wheels Instead of Lap Bars) Z force zero turn for mowing Just gotten to the Point of Mowing twice a week That a zero turn will be More suited for that( I run a Deere compact as well But find I use the X748 more then the compact) The Cubs Zero turn I am Looking at Handle Hills Better than Just about any Zero turn on the Market except for one which uses Tracks In the Rear Called Atoz. The Cub S or SX Zero Turn is almost Like driving a Tractor. The way they Handle

I would Have considered a Simplicity or Ferris ZTR do to the suspension Both are very comfortable to use But with the Parent In Bankruptcy plus the quality slipping as Really driven Me away from there Products

But again don't get concerned so much with Engine HP. Back In the Late 1970's & early 1980's 19.9 HP was enough to run a 60inch deck which is what Many tractor Manufacturers were running at the Time to run a 60inch deck.

With the Deere X700 series they Can strip the Yard Just as nice a Simplicity as Deere is Providing full width roller Kit for the 2 wheel steer X700 series again and Has a Brush stripper for the All wheel steer decks. The drive Over deck with auto-Connect is Nice That really beats Most of the competition with connecting the Mid Mount deck. With the Legacy XL You still have to Lay down To Put the driveshaft on. I am in My 50's Now and it Not the funnest thing to do Mounting the drive shaft. Eventually I'll add a Used X738 or X758 to My stable if I decided to Bag Leaves again with My MC519 Power flow.

Deere Has some Nice Mulching Options with the X700 series such as Mulch On demand with either a Hydraulic cylinder (done from the dash) or a Manual Lever on the deck. What I have Notice with Mulching decks from Deere is they usually very clean at the end of the season compared to Cub Cadet or Simplicity with the Fabricated Decks I Prefer the Deere stamped decks(as there One of the Only Manufactures On the Market to Pay for Good stamping equipment That Can stamp really thick steel) Fabricated deck are Pretty darn Heavy compared to the Deere Thick stamped decks.

Kawasaki engines That Deere Uses Have been very reliable engines .


If You have a Lot of Obstacles On your Property and You don't want a zero turn the Deere All Wheel steer is about the Best Super Garden tractor You can invest in and it will be around in 30 years I own several over 40 year old Deere's In My collection and there still running strong.
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I recently bought a M-F 1723 with a loader...no other options for 11,800 including loaded tires...the mower deck is probably about another 2500 bucks.....starting this week M-F is having a Black Friday sale with very attractive financing (0%) and extended warranties and first service..diesel engine @22.5HP great on fuel, 4WD and locking diff,,,,...check it out...if you have considered Simplicity, Massey is a great alternate choice....to me it is being built to the quality standard no longer seen in Simplicity...I had a Legacy 25 just before I bought this...if your lawn is that bumpy ..the ZT is probably not a good idea...they are usually so fast you would knock your teeth out...good luck with decision
 
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