[gumsadma]

I have posted a few things on the forum about this mower but I still do not know much about the mower. How many of these were made? How much are these worth?

I know it's a Simplicity Baron 7013s but does it bring the value up being a JCPenneys mower? I don't know to many Simplicity guys around here. Everyone collects the big AC tractors and Wheelhorses around here. Just anything else you would like to share post it below.

Thanks y'all!

 

[ezliving4ume]

JCpenny's will hurt the value. There are numours Simplicity-A/C guy's on here. Most own other Brands also. It being a shuttle shift will also hurt value, no hydro drive= no hydraulic lift. I think you could get an electric lift though.:sorry1:

 

[farmerall]

Personally I don't thnk it will hurt the value but it also won't help the value either. Being a JC Penny tractor to me makes more iteresting and it's something that not everyone will have one of so it's sort of an oddball. Also it seems that the shuttle transmissions aren't real popular with a lot of people but I have an AC with one in it and I personally like it.

 

[gumsadma]

EZ Living: How can it hurt the value?

 

[timflury]

EZ Living: How can it hurt the value?

Yeah, really.

The Shuttle shift mechanisms were better than the Variable drives that they replaced. You at least get four forward speeds and four reverse speeds.

The JCP branded tractors were only made for one year. All Simplicity attachments from that era fit unlike the A/C built Homelites and the 300/400 series Allis.

Yes, if you wanted more tractor, you went to the Simplicity dealer and picked yourself up a Hydrostatic with a powered lift. Penney's was competing with Sears and needed a lawn and garden department.

The Penney's tractors today are more a conversation piece, yet the machine is just as capable as a Baron.

 

[Homesteader]

I agree with what Tim said.

Mine has a serial no. of 1440. Not many between yours and mine.

 

[gumsadma]

Homesteader: Do you still have the deck? I like the way you have yours set up. Where did you get the scoop?

 

[Homesteader]

Homesteader: Do you still have the deck? I like the way you have yours set up. Where did you get the scoop?

I still have the deck, but it's not worth much. Rusted through in a couple of places and the roller assembly underneath had been removed.

The scoop is a Johnny Bucket Jr. with a bucket doubler.

http://www.johnnyproducts.com/

 

[Talntedmrgreen]

I think they are neat...never knew much about them until it was posted here earlier, then I researched a bit.

 

[ACmowerguy]

JCpenny's will hurt the value. There are numours Simplicity-A/C guy's on here. Most own other Brands also. sorry1:

If we own other brands too then being another brand should have no effect on its value. Historically, the Simplicity-built Penny's tractors are fairly sought after in areas that have a high saturation of Simplicity's because they give a more unique tractor to add to the collection. In many cases its worth 50% to 100% more than the 7013 Baron. I have a regular 7013 Baron and I don't know if its even worth $300 to a collector.

 

[hamman]

Built on the same platform as my 1972 Homelite T-16H built by Allis Chalmers. I would put the manufacture date around that time. Simplicity buit tractors look like that. As for value I would say without an original deck just guessing $250-$300. IMHO. Nice tractor!:thThumbsU

 

[gumsadma]

A guy told me today it might be worth more if I repainted it the Simplicity colors instead of the JCPenneys yellow. I think it's a crazy idea to take a "special" (for the lack of a better word) mower and paint it the original colors and make it like every other Simplicity out there. I told him it has to make the value go up atleast a small amount. These mowers were made ONLY one year.

 

[Cat385B]

A guy told me today it might be worth more if I repainted it the Simplicity colors instead of the JCPenneys yellow. I think it's a crazy idea to take a "special" (for the lack of a better word) mower and paint it the original colors and make it like every other Simplicity out there. I told him it has to make the value go up atleast a small amount. These mowers were made ONLY one year.

I agree with your reasoning, no way would I paint that to anything other than original.

 

[Talntedmrgreen]

It would have to be pretty rough before I'd consider repainting a priveate branded machine like that. The Baron was a value built machine, so there's really no excitement around them. The limited JCP edition would be the only way one would get some interest, so I would think it carries a value above that of a typical Baron.

I really don't see much 'collector' value in the RBT's anyway. They have a later model 'look' that lasted into the '80's. The vintage look of the FDT's has an appeal that the newer machines hasn't really gotten yet. As a working machine, however, those newer tractors seem to carry a higher value than the older machines. If a guy was going to have one working tractor, I would say RBT all day, but not so much as a show-machine that would stir conversation. (not to say there are't some GORGEOUS restorations of RBT's out there). Your JCP RBT would be about the only conversation piece of that era, the exception being a nice Homelite.

 

[ezliving4ume]

EZ Living: How can it hurt the value?

Well, Its unknown but, we got the guy's talking about it:fing32: I'm not above wrong and it looks like that's exactly were I'm at:dunno:

 

[Talntedmrgreen]

Well, Its unknown but, we got the guy's talking about it:fing32: I'm not above wrong and it looks like that's exactly were I'm at:dunno:

Nah...I can see rationale behind that opinion. To some folks (potential buyers), it may in fact be the case. JCPenny has a reputation, good or bad, with a wide variety of folks. I think they are now assiaciated with lower cost goods, so a tractor with their name on it might not carry 'value' in someone's mind over the Simplicity brand.

Think about it this way, will the Sears version of the current Simplicity's carry more value down the road? Probably not in our minds, but at some point decades from now, if they made very few of them, someone may see a nice one and it wil be a bit more unique.

 

[ezliving4ume]

Right on, Mr. green could not agree more. Anyway you look at it the JC penny's tractor is built well, Its still around and at its age I think that say's volumes

 

[Hdpearson13]

Would taking the original paint off and repaint it the same colors help or hurt value

 

[cityboy2977]

i personally would like to have that machine....i think its neat.

and as for repainting....please dont. well maybe just the deck, the same yellow as the machine.

 

[Talntedmrgreen]

I wouldn't paint it...I wouldn't even touch it up. Basically, it's a less desireable base model Simplicity, with the only differentiating feature being that it was factory painted and decalled differently in order to be another retail outlet's GT option.

I doubt it is every Simplicity guy's cup of tea, but it will stand out, and stir someone's fancy due to it's uniqueness. Personally, I think it's ugly, BUT...I want it becuase it's a unique model :fing32: