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Semi-rigid tire bands for traction?

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I apologize if this has already been discussed but I could not figure out any search terms here or on Google that led me to any information relating to what I'm thinking about.

I have an old MTD built Montgomery Ward lawn tractor that takes 20x8-8 tires. The tires on it are shot. They don't hold air for more than a few minutes and are very very dry rotted. I hope to use this as a "garden tractor" rather than a lawn mower so I am thinking about how to get the best traction out of it without too much weight reduction from my wallet when replacing the tires.

I found some 20x10-8 Carlisle Super Lug tires that I really dig the look of but the cheapest price I can find is ≈$150/pair and [although they are tubeless] I believe I still need another $30 worth of tubes if I want to use my stock rims. I couldn't really find any other comparable "lug" type tires in the ≈20" diameter for an 8" rim (other suggestions always welcome). This got me to thinking about other ways to improve tire traction while buying less expensive traditional lawn-type tires. Of course there is always tire chains but even looking at used ones on craigslist they still seem really expensive (>$40 for a rusty old pair, ≈$70 new).

My idea is to make something similar to tire chains but more rigid and a lot cheaper. I'd like to bend strips of 3/4" steel flat stock and weld it into circles that are ever-so-slightly smaller than the outside diameter of the fully inflated tire. Outside each rear tire I would connect 2 of these circles with strips of 1/2" flat stock or possibly even something like 1/4" or 3/8" round stock as "tread". I could even go all out and bend the round stock into V shapes to really dig in. I think if I get the sizing right on the rings, I could deflate the tire, slip these steel bands with the steel tread over them, then re-inflate. The pressure of the tires should hold the steel bands in place.

I estimate only needing ≈$10 worth of materials to make something like this and my time is free since I enjoy playing with my tools. The only real problems I could see with it were the steel bands fatiguing from constantly flexing under the tires or that I may be overestimating the amount of traction that steel tread would buy me. I assume that tire chains are so popular because the chain portion can bend and flex under the flat part of the bottom of the tire and does not wear out the way a rigid structure would.

I understand that many of you will read this and think "even if it works it still won't be any better than store-bought tire chains" and I can admit you are probably right but I'd still like to hear the thoughts of others on the pros or cons of a setup like this.
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I don't have any pictures but the Amish use steel lugged wheels on their garden tractor so you could do that. My advice is save your money and buy the right equipment. Your MTD will never be a garden tractor. It is just a lawn mower that looks like a tractor. Even if you got good traction you will end up breaking other components like the transaxle. Save your money and buy a real tractor. It will be cheaper for you and better. Roger
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I say if you have the time & willing to give it a try then go for it , who knows you might be onto something .

Mike
Your MTD will never be a garden tractor. It is just a lawn mower that looks like a tractor. Even if you got good traction you will end up breaking other components like the transaxle.
This is an excellent point.

I am trying to be realistic with my expectations about what I'll be able to do with this tractor until I can get a "real" one. I'd be satisfied with it pulling a small harrow in the garden or adding a blade to push a little snow off the driveway in the winter. Mostly I just want to make the tractor do something (anything) other than just mowing. My landlord/neighbor mows my yard and I think he enjoys doing it so I hate to encroach on his hobby. I've seen some modified racing or "off roading" lawn tractors but neither of those ideas really sends me.
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I am trying to be realistic with my expectations about what I'll be able to do with this tractor until I can get a "real" one. I'd be satisfied with it pulling a small harrow in the garden or adding a blade to push a little snow off the driveway in the winter. Mostly I just want to make the tractor do something (anything) other than just mowing. My landlord/neighbor mows my yard and I think he enjoys doing it so I hate to encroach on his hobby. I've seen some modified racing or "off roading" lawn tractors but neither of those ideas really sends me.
:MTF_wel2: , Handsomeryan!!

Weight gives traction. Chains, lugs and bars give bite to make use of the traction available from the weight. Non flexible bars will be a rough ride, as will 4 link chains, and the rear axle is limited for how much weight can be applied to the rear of the tractor frame.

Loading the tires with a suitable medium (plumbing antifreeze for light weight, RimGuard for heavy) will add weight that isn't carried by the axle, as will adding wheel weights and chains. Tubes are not required if the rim bead area is in good shape. Weight applied to the rear of the tractor frame counts as double the load carried by the axle, eg. 100 lb on the rear of the frame = 200 lb on the axle.

Your transmission will not like it if you load your tractor to the max. It will have great traction ..........untill it breaks.

Lugs are the best tire for mud and soft dirt, turfs with 2 link chains for just about everything else.

If you want to play in the dirt with a maxxed out LT while learning what does what, that's fine, but be prepared to break the tractor before you can get a GT. It will make a good, expendable, learning tool.
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