Thanks for the info and the advice guys, I have till spring to figure out what I will do with the seat. I might grind all the welds off and see what I have. It looks like the rubber is shot for sure. There are other things that I need to do first, the proofmeter is junk and probably the cable too. The previous owner painted the old girl blue, not sure if I will change it back to red or not. He did a pretty good job so might just leave it.