Picked this up last week, first big tractor for me. Still at my folks house need to get it home. Needs a few little things, hydro lines, either a gen. or an altinator and the right side cylinder needs to be rebuilt. Im sure there is more but that is the big list for now. Oh yeah the right side brake
Ok who can help me out a little here, the left side brake works fine the right side creaks and groans when you stand on it. Cannot see any leaks of any kind. And do these brakes " stop" the tractor or slow them down. A friend of my dads said his don't stop it and a friend of his said the same thing. Is this normal.
Brakes are designed to stop the tractor and will unless they are worn out or oil soaked. My 850 will lock either wheel. The early Fords were good about oil soaking the linings. Not as bad with the NAA but still can happen. I would say the right brake is worn out as it is the one that USUALLY gets stepped on the most and unless the pedals are locked together wears out first.
Ok, we are going to pull the wheels off, I should figure in doing a brake job then. Thank you for the help. Ill have more questions as I get into it more.
Just to verify I could lock the brakes up on my 850 and stop with a load of hay behind it going down a hill on a paved road today. So don't let anyone tell you they won't stop the tractor, if they do not then they need to be fixed. We are here to help if you run into something.
Ok I'm on the fence about the brakes, I know I have to pull the right wheel off to check the brakes should I just get a brake hardware kit and shoes and do the whole thing? Or just a set if shoes?
I had a 600 Ford with the same loader as yours..thought it was my old tractor at first!..
I miss that thing,sure wish I had the loader now,to lift heavy things up..
The right brake on mine was not very effective either,the left one locked the wheel right up though..I think whoever had it before me only took right turns,using the brakes--or maybe the comment about the right brake pedal being the one used most wore the brakes out on that side before the left one..
I never took the drums off my 600,(just changing the tire & rim when one rusted thru was an experience!)--so I'm not much help on the brakes..but I would say if the hardware kit isn't expensive and available readily,you might as well get it--better than getting it apart and wishing you had,and having to leave it apart if the kit needs to be ordered..
Brake kits are nice all thte shiny new pieces but unless things are really screwed up in there they are not necessary since the old ones will probably clean up quite nicely with a wire brush.
I thinking I may just crib it up and pull the drums and check it out. It's in the corner of my folks driveway, don't want to block it up to bad for them. As long as my dad can get the bird out its all good I guess.
I'm in the process of changing the brake shoes on my 850. Right side was fine, no need for new shoes or hardware.
Left side needed new shoes but the hardware was fine. The springs and adjustment screws are pretty hardy material. I would wait to order anything until you get the drums off. I almost ordered shoes and brake kits for both sides, I'm glad I didn't. Right side just needed cleaning and adjusting. Left side needed cleaning but shoes were almost down to bare metal.
I would wait to see what you find before you order.
When I pulled the left drum off, about 15 acorns and a crab claw fell out. How the **** does a crab claw get into a brake drum? Gotta love these old Fords!!
Ok my dad and I pulled the wheel and drum off, right side only. The lower shoe warn like the dickens and the upper shoe in decent shape. The top shoe doesn't move when you depress the pedal. I'm going to order a set of shoes from Steiner Tractor and replace them. Any thoughts on having the drum turned. It does have a line ground right down the center.
On a different note can you replace the rear pto shaft this one is a little on the warn and bent side.
Sounds like the top shoe was frozen and not giving you any braking. As for the drum I would not spend the money to have it turned unless it bothers you. This is not a high speed application.
The PTO shaft is a simple 4 bolt change out if you get the complete replacement with the housing and bearings. That is how I did it, slightly more cost than the shaft alone but a heck of a lot less hassel.
Did the brakes this weekend, wasn't that difficult. Still doesn't really "stop" bet a lot better than it was. We turned the wheels to the wider stance because the right side was rubbing on the lift cylinder. Took a little figuring on how to get the weights back on with the wheel like that. Also found out one of the weights is broken.
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