[Deezil]

I Bought this old snapper 6hp RER for $50. These have sentimental value to me since we had them as kids at my Mom and Dads. I plan on Restifying and using it..


After a trip to the car wash, I soaked the carb overnight and got it running great. I fired it up to mulch up the leaves and Unfortunately the deck spindle seems to be shot. I blade seems to be fairly newish and doesn't look bent. Seems to run good inside with the deck.

I cannot seem to find a Part# for the spindle. All the parts fiche's shows a silhouetted spindle and do not give a part# for it or any internal parts for it.


It is Snapper model 25065 . I'm not sure how to tell the series model of these yet. I'm just getting back into them after 30 years.
Any Ideas?

 

[rudedawg]

It's been 30 years or so since I've worked on a Snapper RER but see if this might help: https://www.partstree.com/parts/sna...r-25-rear-engine-rider-6-hp-series-6/spindle/ Good luck.

 

[tomw0]

It may be that you just need some new bearings. I figure they should be readily available from other sources. Fastenal has bearings, and will ship-to-store any you order for a pittance(shipping), while to your door will cost a bit more.
If you take it apart, and the housing is good, and the shaft is good, just replace the bearings. You'll have to drive out the old ones, etc, but it's not super difficult.
Warning, in case you don't know, do NOT put side load on the center race. It will destroy the bearing. Light tapping is ok, but not sledge hammer blows, except to remove the old, stuck-in-place worn out bearings in which case you don't care.
tom

 

[NOVAZ27]

Hello. Could you please elaborate on your statement" Unfortunately the deck spindle seems to be shot. I blade seems to be fairly newish and doesn't look bent. Seems to run good inside with the deck." More information is needed as to what makes you think the Spindle is shot. Bearing noise? Shaft wobble? Bad pulley/s? The Snapper manual #7002 is listed below. This manual contains setup procedures that apply to most RER's. The spindle is covered on 3.8 & 3.9.
TomwO has some good advice concerning bearing replacement. Let us in the loop about your progress.


HOPE THIS HELPS.

 

[Kbeitz]

I seen one at the junkyard yesterday...

 

[Deezil]

Im going to pull the spindle this weekend. I'll pull it apart and put the shaft on the granite block at my shop and see if it is bent. Sure hope not.

I'll look for some part#'s on the bearings when I pull them. It Doesnt look like the flange is damaged. I remember seeing on like that after My Father ran over something in the late 80s on our big rider we used to have.


Good times.

 

[Mow Joe]

I spent the better part of two decades repairing Snappers. There is virtually none of the spindle exposed, so bending one is highly unusual. You say the blade runs good inside the deck, which pretty much says it's not bent. Since you don't elaborate on why you think it is "shot", I can only speculate that the symptom is a vibration. If that is the case, check the belt and pulleys. A bad spot burned into the belt, a bent pulley, something lodged in a pulley, will cause lots of vibration. Without better info, that's what I got.

 

[Deezil]

When I kick the pto on theres a massive vibration that settles into somewhat of a orbital oscillation that slowly builds and then settles into a lower pitch vibrating hum.. I assume the bearings are shot and this weekend I aim to pull the spindle unit itself and see what I can find. The schematics show parts being available for the model above with a S designation on the end of the model # but not for my stated model #.

 

[tomw0]

Snapper codes the model number. Yours was: model 25065

25 is the width of cut
06 is the series
5 is the hp
The last letter is the brand of engine installed, followed by suffixes for electric start, etc
I don't know what brand would be an S, could it be a B that is rusty or disfigured?
tom

 

[Deezil]

The S designation is on the parts fiche. Theres a 25065 parts fiche but that spindle on it is labeled as not available. Theres another parts fiche labeled 25065S that shows parts. I dont know if mine is a early model with a unsupported spindle or if the 25065S parts will interchange. I watched some videos on removing the spindle on various snappers last evening and it looks simple enough. I'll grab some bearings and run the shaft on the granite table or between centers if it has them and see if I cannot figure it out.

 

[Mow Joe]

Tom's info is mostly correct, but the HP and series are backwards. 6 is the HP, and the mower is a series 5. Back then, they didn't designate engine brand on the model # sticker. I don't think there was ever a 6HP Briggs, so that pretty much means it's a Tecumseh. The "S" designation means electric start.

 

[tomw0]

Yup, Mowjoe is right on the money. I looked right at the owners manual, knowing what I knew, and flipped things in my mind. Old brain, mebbe needs an overhaul.
My manual indicates use of "E" as an electric start version.
I have a 3314KVE ... 33" 14hp 8 series Kohler V=high vac E electric start, as far as I can figure.
tom

 

[Mow Joe]

Maybe we could drink one of those engine restore products. They’re supposed to be an overhaul in a can. Maybe it could work for our old brains.

 

[rudedawg]

I drank some but it did not affect me, fect me, fect me........:tango_face_surprise

 

[propwash]

Before ordering parts , make sure there isn't something else stopping the spindle. Like the "blade brake". The replacement spindle is "7012524 YP" . There is a good source of data on the forum Index page . There's a "series 4&5 Parts book" , and a "series 4,5,6, and later service manual " free download.

 

[CCMoe]

For what it's worth, if you look at the MM size of the bearings, you can purchase common bearings readily available.

I found out the bearings for my JD 60" deck were a common model number 6205, you can buy them open sided which is what is used by JD, sealed one side or sealed both sides.

It's nice when they use readily available parts and put them in their box, bag and charge double.

CCMoe

 

[tomw0]

To add to what CCMoe stated, you can order bearings from Fastenal, at reasonable prices for onsies and twosies, and have them shipped to your local store at minimum expense.
I ordered a pair of ball bearings and the shipping was less than a dollar. I figure they include my little bit in their weekly shipments from their central warehouse to the local store. To your mailbox or front porch costs a lot more.
I do not have any affiliation, but it might not be a bad idea as they seem to be well run are customer friendly, and display common sense about shipping.
tom

 

[propwash]

The "25 inch" hasn't been made for many years. It's still popular in some quarters. because It's narrow and will fit through many "walk through" gates. Very hard to find blades I corresponded with a doctor in central TX who had one . He bought 26" blades and had a machine shop shorten them to 25" . I think they had narrower rear wheels and tires, too.

 

[Mow Joe]

Very hard to find blades I corresponded with a doctor in central TX who had one . He bought 26" blades and had a machine shop shorten them to 25" .

Wow! A google search turned up gobs of hits. I hope he is more thorough when searching for tumors.

The rear tires were the same size as the 26" mowers. The 28" and larger had the wider tires.

 

[propwash]

This was back around 2010 or so we began talking about him "re-powering" with a Honda GXV 340. I helped him look for blades and I'm a fair hand about searching the internet for Snapper parts ,and none were found ,someone may have started making them since.