At $400 dollars, sight unseen, I still think you stole it! We want pics when you get it.
New to me HT23
I will be picking up a HT23 (not sure of the year) this Saturday morning. Comes with a blade, deck, rotiller, yard trailer, chains, cruise control and per seller "a backhoe looking thing". All for $400. I bought it sight unseen except for a a couple of pics in CL. I figured I can take the risk for $400. Always wanted a large frame. I wish it had the power steering though.
The seller got this tractor as a payment from someone that owed him money. Did not really use it and he not does not know anything about tractor. Its been sitting unused for a few months.
One problem the tractor has is that per seller "sometimes the tractor starts sometimes it doesn't. You can hear the starter click but the the engine does not turn over." But if it works it starts right up.
What could be the issue here? What should I check for when I get there? I'd like to get it running before I head home and it would easier to load on the trailer. And if I need to push the tractor on to the trailer, is there a lever to put the tractor into "neutral" ?
Sorry no pics. Forgot to save the pics from CL -- ad is gone. Thanks for help.
The seller got this tractor as a payment from someone that owed him money. Did not really use it and he not does not know anything about tractor. Its been sitting unused for a few months.
One problem the tractor has is that per seller "sometimes the tractor starts sometimes it doesn't. You can hear the starter click but the the engine does not turn over." But if it works it starts right up.
What could be the issue here? What should I check for when I get there? I'd like to get it running before I head home and it would easier to load on the trailer. And if I need to push the tractor on to the trailer, is there a lever to put the tractor into "neutral" ?
Sorry no pics. Forgot to save the pics from CL -- ad is gone. Thanks for help.
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could be a starter. if it just clicks, rap on the starter with somthing solid and try it again. if it goes then it's probably the starter.
Nice steal/deal for $400 with all those attachments.
Starter or other electrical - i.e. replace the plug, check for loose wires making bad/intermittent connections, check for bad spark plug wire, eroded battery cables (positive cable on my 112 came apart in my hand), weak battery, etc.
If you have another battery bring it with you, weak battery could cause the click and no start/intermittent start if it's cranking power is diminished.
Starter or other electrical - i.e. replace the plug, check for loose wires making bad/intermittent connections, check for bad spark plug wire, eroded battery cables (positive cable on my 112 came apart in my hand), weak battery, etc.
If you have another battery bring it with you, weak battery could cause the click and no start/intermittent start if it's cranking power is diminished.
There should be a lever under the left side of the seat to put it in neutral. Good luck pushing it since it weighs about 1100 pounds. Great find!
Jealous. I payed $450 for a 1050 with a blower tiller and bad deck.
You are lucky!
You are lucky!
Thanks for all the reply so far. I'm not ceratin what you mean by "rap on the starter with somthing solid". Please explain. thx.if it just clicks, rap on the starter with somthing solid and try it again.
What a steal for a beast with all those options also.
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Basically, hit it with a hammer. :fing32:Thanks for all the reply so far. I'm not ceratin what you mean by "rap on the starter with somthing solid". Please explain. thx.
That is an AWESOME deal. I just bought the same model for 3x what you paid. And mine did not come with all those attachments.
Jason
Jason
Do the exact opposite of what the warning label on the starter says:lalala:Thanks for all the reply so far. I'm not ceratin what you mean by "rap on the starter with somthing solid". Please explain. thx.
The reason there is a label on the body of the starter warning you NOT to strike it with a hard object is the starter used on the Kohler K532 and K582 engines have permanent magnets "glued" to the body of the starter.
If you strike to hard one of two things will happen
- the magnet will crack into multiple pieces greatly reducing it's effectiveness
or
- the magnet will come unglued from the body and lock up the starter.
The suggestion from others to Tap on the starter is good. Just gently strike the end of the starter, not the body. The brushes are located in the aluminum end cap of the starter and sometimes they stick away from the armature when they are worn. Tapping on the aluminum end housing may allow the brushes to regain contact an allow the starter to work again.
FYI, I tried to rebuild the starter on my HT20 and found a broken magnet from someone striking to hard.
The click the PO is hearing is the starter solenoid on the firewall between the engine and the dash. The solenoid may not be making electrical contact which would also prevent the starter from working. Bring a test light or Multimeter and see if there is voltage on the cable down to the starter when the key is held in the crank position. If not, use a heavy jumper wire and I mean battery cable size wire to jump accross the 2 big posts on the solenoid.
BTW Awesome deal, we definately want pictures:wwp:
If you strike to hard one of two things will happen
- the magnet will crack into multiple pieces greatly reducing it's effectiveness
or
- the magnet will come unglued from the body and lock up the starter.
The suggestion from others to Tap on the starter is good. Just gently strike the end of the starter, not the body. The brushes are located in the aluminum end cap of the starter and sometimes they stick away from the armature when they are worn. Tapping on the aluminum end housing may allow the brushes to regain contact an allow the starter to work again.
FYI, I tried to rebuild the starter on my HT20 and found a broken magnet from someone striking to hard.
The click the PO is hearing is the starter solenoid on the firewall between the engine and the dash. The solenoid may not be making electrical contact which would also prevent the starter from working. Bring a test light or Multimeter and see if there is voltage on the cable down to the starter when the key is held in the crank position. If not, use a heavy jumper wire and I mean battery cable size wire to jump accross the 2 big posts on the solenoid.
BTW Awesome deal, we definately want pictures:wwp:
Thanks kbtoy. Awesome suggestions. I will defnitely try those and hopefully I can get it to start. And no other surprises -- fingers crossed.The reason there is a label on the body of the starter warning you NOT to strike it with a hard object is the starter used on the Kohler K532 and K582 engines have permanent magnets "glued" to the body of the starter.
If you strike to hard one of two things will happen
- the magnet will crack into multiple pieces greatly reducing it's effectiveness
or
- the magnet will come unglued from the body and lock up the starter.
The suggestion from others to Tap on the starter is good. Just gently strike the end of the starter, not the body. The brushes are located in the aluminum end cap of the starter and sometimes they stick away from the armature when they are worn. Tapping on the aluminum end housing may allow the brushes to regain contact an allow the starter to work again.
FYI, I tried to rebuild the starter on my HT20 and found a broken magnet from someone striking to hard.
The click the PO is hearing is the starter solenoid on the firewall between the engine and the dash. The solenoid may not be making electrical contact which would also prevent the starter from working. Bring a test light or Multimeter and see if there is voltage on the cable down to the starter when the key is held in the crank position. If not, use a heavy jumper wire and I mean battery cable size wire to jump accross the 2 big posts on the solenoid.
BTW Awesome deal, we definately want pictures:wwp:
Hey you're only about 35 mins away from me. I'm in Round Lake, IL. Nice to know someone close by who owns some large frames.
I will definitely post some pics when i get it home. Thanks again.
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