I wouldn't be to concerned, but smarter guys than me will be along shortly.
New Simplicity, but crated for 3 years
I am looking to buy a new Simplicity riding mower and found a great deal on a 3 year old model. It has never been assembled and is still in the crate. Should I be concerned with buying a mower that's been in the crate for 3 years? Thanks for your input.
Bob
Bob
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Original 'factory' warranty has expired. If buying from a Simplicity dealer/shop, will they offer and stand behind the same warranty as a new machine?
It is my understanding the warranty begins the day you buy it, not on the day it was manufactured. If that were the way it worked, buying a left over 09 vehicle would mean you just lost nearly 2 years warranty on it.
If it's a killer deal,grab it :fing32:
Bob
Was the crate storred inside or outside?
If outside I would go over every electrical connection male/ female connections, ground moments on the frame, etc. It would be worth the time in the long run to know your electrical system is restored to original condition. :fing32:
DMAC
Was the crate storred inside or outside?
If outside I would go over every electrical connection male/ female connections, ground moments on the frame, etc. It would be worth the time in the long run to know your electrical system is restored to original condition. :fing32:
DMAC
I bought an 2004 Ingersoll 318 LGT still in the crate in 2008 and had no problems with it other than needing a new battery. A friend of mine also bought one and has had good luck with it. Here is the thread of what I did before starting and running it. http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=63801
slkpk
slkpk
For the very risk averse...
If it was stored in a dry environment budget for replacing pretty much everything rubber (belts, exposed seals, potentially tires, etc.) If it's still a good good deal, then go for it.
3 years isn't too bad, in fact I had an old car sit for 8 years in a garage, when I brought it back to life, it had flat spotted tires so I replaced those and changed the oil. Has driven like a dream for the past year (thank god!), purrs like a kitten. Was a bit lumpy and for the first few hundred miles, but now it's smooth as silk. Only sounds I hear aside from the exhaust roar are women hooting and wind shear when I near the sound barrier. :thThumbsU
If it was stored in a dry environment budget for replacing pretty much everything rubber (belts, exposed seals, potentially tires, etc.) If it's still a good good deal, then go for it.
3 years isn't too bad, in fact I had an old car sit for 8 years in a garage, when I brought it back to life, it had flat spotted tires so I replaced those and changed the oil. Has driven like a dream for the past year (thank god!), purrs like a kitten. Was a bit lumpy and for the first few hundred miles, but now it's smooth as silk. Only sounds I hear aside from the exhaust roar are women hooting and wind shear when I near the sound barrier. :thThumbsU
Factory warranty starts from day first registered. They may question if an older unit and require a sales ticket. Demo units are the same way. They can be 2 or 3 years old but they warranty it from sales registration date.
If it was stored in a dry environment budget for replacing pretty much everything rubber (belts, exposed seals, potentially tires, etc.)
Ummm... I would beg to differ. Rubber does not dry out in a dry environment.
Now if we talked about a "hot" environment... ie this thing was sitting outside, in a black crate, in Yuma for 3 years - then yes - the HEAT would get to the rubber parts... and potentially to the battery as well (drying it out)
Ummm... I would beg to differ. Rubber does not dry out in a dry environment.
Now if we talked about a "hot" environment... ie this thing was sitting outside, in a black crate, in Yuma for 3 years - then yes - the HEAT would get to the rubber parts... and potentially to the battery as well (drying it out)
i bought a outboard motor like that, 2-3 year old still in crate, the dealer was going out of business, got it at cost. :trink40:
I don't know hardly any environment it could be stored in where pretty much everything rubber would be trashed after only three years. For that matter, has anyone ever replaced their tires after only three years where the tractor was being used and they were trashed during that time?For the very risk averse...
If it was stored in a dry environment budget for replacing pretty much everything rubber (belts, exposed seals, potentially tires, etc.) If it's still a good good deal, then go for it.
Regards,
Rich
Brand new in the box is brand new in the box. Not like it's been stored 15 years or more. Most of the tractors on here have been rode hard and put up wet for 15 years or more and still doing the job everyday. If it's the tractor that you want then buy it. Those are the kinda of deals I feel lucky to find.
I agree that you have little to worry about, though a thorough inspection is warranted.
This isn't like the 30 year old JD 318 still in the crate which we've seen recently.
This isn't like the 30 year old JD 318 still in the crate which we've seen recently.
warranty commences the date of sale - there is NOTHING to worry about, excepting any different warranty on the battery (one year vs three on the machine, for example). if you should experience a battery failure the day after the warranty expired and the dealer turned his back, these batteries are inexpensive. the deal is too good to pass.
former Toro, Echo, MTD, Poulan, Weedeater dealer.
former Toro, Echo, MTD, Poulan, Weedeater dealer.
A short warranty story....
As mentioned, the warranty starts at the date of sale.
I bought a new Murray walk behind that was apparently 2 years old. This was around the time they went under and Briggs assumed their assets. Briggs decided not to support the Murray stuff as far as parts go so when I had a weld failed on the front wheel mounting plate, the part was no longer available for my then three year old mower. Unfortunately for Briggs, it was still under warranty. When they determined that it was indeed, still under warranty, they cut me a check for the purchase price of the mower and I got to keep the mower. They even suggested I take it to a weld shop and have it fixed.
That's good customer service!
As mentioned, the warranty starts at the date of sale.
I bought a new Murray walk behind that was apparently 2 years old. This was around the time they went under and Briggs assumed their assets. Briggs decided not to support the Murray stuff as far as parts go so when I had a weld failed on the front wheel mounting plate, the part was no longer available for my then three year old mower. Unfortunately for Briggs, it was still under warranty. When they determined that it was indeed, still under warranty, they cut me a check for the purchase price of the mower and I got to keep the mower. They even suggested I take it to a weld shop and have it fixed.
That's good customer service!
It's not so much from the heat/time as the lack of use.I don't know hardly any environment it could be stored in where pretty much everything rubber would be trashed after only three years. For that matter, has anyone ever replaced their tires after only three years where the tractor was being used and they were trashed during that time?
Regards,
Rich
Whenever tires crack its because they havent been used or sat for a while and the oils in the rubber leech inward causing the drying and cracking. When used, the copounds stay 'moistureized' so to speak. This is very common to see with used tires that have been driven on vs. those the same age that sit in a warehouse. Same goes for seals. Use it or lose it!
I do agree, however that 3 years isn't likely long enough for this to happen. As I said, for the very risk averse is it is extremely unlikely that there will be problems.
Link to thread please?This isn't like the 30 year old JD 318 still in the crate which we've seen recently.
I don't entirely agree, non-use isn't all that bad if stored properly (tires last longer deflated and stored away from ozone and ultraviolet rays). Rubber deteriorates either way, whether in use or not, as an inflated tire forces oxygen through the rubber plies breaking down the bonding between layers as well as putting the rubber at greater risk to ozone.It's not so much from the heat/time as the lack of use.
Whenever tires crack its because they havent been used or sat for a while and the oils in the rubber leech inward causing the drying and cracking. When used, the copounds stay 'moistureized' so to speak. This is very common to see with used tires that have been driven on vs. those the same age that sit in a warehouse. Same goes for seals. Use it or lose it!
And that was my point, I can't think of a three-year scenario that would result in the seals being shot, let alone the tires.I do agree, however that 3 years isn't likely long enough for this to happen. As I said, for the very risk averse is it is extremely unlikely that there will be problems.
Regards,
Rich
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