Need a seal

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DanH

Discussion Starter · Sep 14, 2010

I need a seal, what I call the imput shaft seal that seals the spline into the rear end or the hydraulic pump from the drive shaft. Where can I get one? This is for a MF 1655. I know it is called something else, I don't have the time to look it up, got to go pick up the kids frkom school. I drive school bus.

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Dan

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WNYTractorTinkerer

· #2 · Sep 14, 2010

There's a few parts listings for your model#.. Need the serial # to look up the correct page..

http://search.cartserver.com/search...8671&category=MTDPDF&maxhits=10&keywords=1655

P/N: ET-093955-000 OIL SEAL I think that is the one you are looking for if it's in the pump body.. Take a look @ page #4 in this listing:

http://www.outdoordistributors.com/pdf/MTD/WHITE-138-786-190_LGT-1655_(1988).pdf

Hope it helps.. :goodl:

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butchs_hobby

· #3 · Sep 15, 2010

I replaced that seal on my 1855, over at the shop in my toolbox I think I have the seal part no. , I always save the box top with the brand and part no. on it for any bearings or seals I buy, then write on the back what it fits. Try to give you that no. tonight, today is going to be a long day at the shop (one man short, he's getting some medical tests done) so I'll have to open and close. So much for semi-retirement!

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DanH

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 15, 2010

Thanks for the info Tinkerer.

Butch I think you are the ticket, if you have the number on the seal and bearing as well that would be fantastic.

Greatly Appreciated
Dan

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massey driver

· #5 · Sep 16, 2010

Hey Dan if it's the seal in the pump where the shaft from the motor connects to this is the seal. National seal#470954 brg I'am don't know. Larry

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DanH

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 16, 2010

massey driver said:
Hey Dan if it's the seal in the pump where the shaft from the motor connects to this is the seal. National seal#470954 brg I'am don't know. Larry

That's the one, thanks Larry much appreciated. Don't need the bearing, just thought it might be nice to have that # for future ref.

Dan

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butchs_hobby

· #7 · Sep 18, 2010

Sorry I didn't get back to you with that no., glad to see you got the info, the last couple of days at the shop have been hard on this old man!!

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WNYTractorTinkerer

· #8 · Sep 18, 2010

Here's the place I've found the absolute best price on oil seals.. I looked up your P/N and the price is $2.36 w/free shipping.. Order away!

http://kscdirect.com/item/NAT+470954/THE+TIMKEN+COMPANY_470954+NATIONAL+OIL+SEAL+CR+7443%0A

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DanH

Discussion Starter · #9 · Sep 18, 2010

WNYTractorTinkerer said:
Here's the place I've found the absolute best price on oil seals.. I looked up your P/N and the price is $2.36 w/free shipping.. Order away!

http://kscdirect.com/item/NAT+470954/THE+TIMKEN+COMPANY_470954+NATIONAL+OIL+SEAL+CR+7443%0A

Thanks Tinkerer, thats what I call extremely helpful, you went out of your way to help me out very much appreciated.

Dan:thanku:

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DanH

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 19, 2010

Now that I have the oil seal on the way, what is the best way to get the old seal out of that charge pump housing? I have the drive shaft out of the way. Should I take that housing off or is there a way to get the seal out without removing the housing? Looks like there is a couple of plates and a pin on the other side, along with a big O ring, wouldn't want to bugger things up.

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Dan

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butchs_hobby

· #11 · Sep 20, 2010

When I replaced that seal on my ole 1855 I did take the frt cover off of the charge pump to replace the seal. I wanted to make sure the bearing and shaft were good and it made it a lot easier to change. I reused that big o-ring, on mine at least, it sealed right back up. Watch out for that pin that drives the center gear, it'll fall out of there. If put back together without the pin the tractor won't move, don't ask me how I know this!!

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DanH

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 20, 2010

butchs_hobby said:
When I replaced that seal on my ole 1855 I did take the frt cover off of the charge pump to replace the seal. I wanted to make sure the bearing and shaft were good and it made it a lot easier to change. I reused that big o-ring, on mine at least, it sealed right back up. Watch out for that pin that drives the center gear, it'll fall out of there. If put back together without the pin the tractor won't move, don't ask me how I know this!!

Thanks Butch, I won't ask.

I have had my share of those adventures. I just kind of figured that would be the best way, make life a lot easier.

Dan

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TUDOR

· #13 · Sep 20, 2010

butchs_hobby said:
When I replaced that seal on my ole 1855 I did take the frt cover off of the charge pump to replace the seal. I wanted to make sure the bearing and shaft were good and it made it a lot easier to change. I reused that big o-ring, on mine at least, it sealed right back up. Watch out for that pin that drives the center gear, it'll fall out of there. If put back together without the pin the tractor won't move, don't ask me how I know this!!

Been there. Done that.

isgus:

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