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Everybody hates the “V” engined lawnboys. They are universally bashed for build quality and vibration, but for some reason, I can’t get enough of them. Anytime I have a lawnboy for sale on Craigslist, I always include in the ad “trade for silver series 4.5/4.75”. This past month, I finally decided to get away from the duraforces, mainly because of the weight and the above-deck muffler. I sold my 10323 and my 10525 quickly, though my super clean 10324 lingered for weeks, most definitely because of my $175 price tag... anyway, I got a call last week from a gentleman about 45 minutes away with two silver series mowers who was interested in a trade. Ironically, he had contacted me in May about a 10525 but it sold before I got him, and though I wanted his mowers, I didn’t feel like making the drive. This guy was kind enough to load up both of his mowers and bring them to me last Sunday, and I got two beautiful V’s plus a spare engine in exchange for my 10324 and $60 cash.

The first is a 1993 10301 with the metal Walbro carburetor, metal deck baffle, and a few other unique parts I will get some pictures of later. I always wanted one of these, but the fact that a new self propel cable for the ‘93 models is about $50 means that it will be the backup. *edit, I should’ve been more clear, The cable on mine is good, but I’ve broken so many over the years I know it won’t likely last long. I was smart enough to grab a complete ‘93 motor from my favorite local junkyard so I have a good spare motor with carb and the unique top cover with no primer.

The second mower is a 1994 10312, this one belonged to the owners brother who had a stroke and could no longer mow. The ‘94s have a unique plastic carburetor which I thought is kinda neat. This is my new daily driver and it is a great runner.

Both of these things are super clean, not sure how this guy could keep these mowers so clean and still cut with them. The second picture is them with my daily driver 10314 that looks like it lived outside it’s whole life but is a fantastic runner.
 

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Even though some here don't like the V series, I've never had a problem with them as my dad had one forever and it is what I learned to cut grass with. Although I have come to love the smoothness of the F series, I love any and all 2 stroke lawn-boys (but my kawasaki toro is pretty good too). To me, it seems like you got the better end of the deal as those two look to be in very good shape (although your duraforce was as well) and you got the mowers that you enjoy.
 

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"the fact that a new self propel cable for the ‘93 models is about $50 means that it will be the backup."

IF it the cable itself, I have bought cable off the spool at Rural King Farm Store and fabricated ends myself for a couple dollars.

Walt Conner
 

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Even though some here don't like the V series, I've never had a problem with them as my dad had one forever and it is what I learned to cut grass with. Although I have come to love the smoothness of the F series, I love any and all 2 stroke lawn-boys (but my kawasaki toro is pretty good too). To me, it seems like you got the better end of the deal as those two look to be in very good shape (although your duraforce was as well) and you got the mowers that you enjoy.
I too am a huge fan of the F engines, next spring I’m hoping to nab a decent 10518 or 10523 to add to the fleet. For now I’m happy, if I wasn’t so lazy I woulda bought that 10301 you had on Craigslist for $25 too. It’s cool there’s so many local guys on here, we need to start a PGH LB club lol.
 

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"the fact that a new self propel cable for the ‘93 models is about $50 means that it will be the backup."

IF it the cable itself, I have bought cable off the spool at Rural King Farm Store and fabricated ends myself for a couple dollars.

Walt Conner
I have heard of guys doing that, that is a very good idea and a whole lot cheaper than a new cable. I’ve got my fingers crossed that the cable on mine lasts a good while...
 

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Nice finds! I'm also one of the few folks that like the 'V" series. I own one, a model 10227 and it's easily my go to for mulching sticks, leaves and tall grass. They can be loud and noisy but they have a great amount of power and are still really lightweight.
 

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Nice finds! I'm also one of the few folks that like the 'V" series. I own one, a model 10227 and it's easily my go to for mulching sticks, leaves and tall grass. They can be loud and noisy but they have a great amount of power and are still really lightweight.
Thank you! I second everything you say, the power and the weight are fantastic, you are fortunate that the 10227 has the 4.75 motor which means it has the thrust bearing on the crank, in my opinion that makes it a smidge better than the earlier motors. I don’t think the 4.75s actually make any more power, I just like knowing that thrust bearing is in there, lol.
 

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After a couple weeks with these mowers, it has not been smooth sailing. My first day using the 10312, the bolt disappears from the front of the plastic shroud. Looking in, I find there’s no threads to be found in the sheet metal housing, just a big hole. I figured, no big deal, I’ll use if with two bolts for now until I have time to address it. Second day using it, about a week later thanks to being off for gum surgery, I notice another rattle developing, look underneath and the muffler has rattled loose and one bolt is hitting the blade. Of course I forgot to bring tools that day, fortunately the lady I was mowing was kind enough to lend me a couple crescent wrenches and saved my leg. Just a couple days ago, mowing a very nice yard, I’m going down a hill and the left front wheel rolls away. I didn’t lose it, but all of this, combined with the nasty fuel leak this thing has (I need to add a shut off valve pronto) is a bit of a letdown. I’m fortunate I didn’t buy this mower early in the season when the grass was really growing.

Even worse is the story of the 10301. I pulled it out last week for my buddy to use mowing with me. I knew the front muffler bolt was loose, went to tighten it, and found no threads in the hole. Pulled the muffler, figuring I needed to helicoil the hole, and discovered somebody already had, and the helicoil had pulled out! One of the other holes has a helicoil in it and the other (barely) has some original threads left. I need to thread the front hole bigger, make up some lock tabs, and maybe I’ll finally be able to use this thing.

I really love these mowers, the weight and power is excellent, but I can see why they have the reputation they do. They are fortunate they have a home with a mechanic or they would’ve been down the road already.
 
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